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    Any word on where the gang from Lake Arrowhead, including Adam Rippon, is now training full time?

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    My dark horse pick for a very good season Stephen Carriere
    Last edited by Iceman; 10-16-2013 at 04:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Cooper View Post
    Any word on where the gang from Lake Arrowhead, including Adam Rippon, is now training full time?
    Artesia, California (Kwan's rink) -- see the article excerpt posted earlier in his thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...=1#post3998182

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
    My dark horse pick for a very good season Stephen Carriere
    Well he's certainly off to a good start with his silver medal in SLC! If he doesn't get a second Senior B, his next competition will be Eastern Sectionals next month.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 10-16-2013 at 05:43 AM.
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    Cross-posting from the Kiss and Cry forum... Here's a pre-Skate America article on Rippon (and why he and Wagner must speak for Rafael Arutunian): http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/10/16/63016604
    ETA an excerpt:
    Ashley Wagner credits him with helping to add consistency to her triple-triple combination. Adam Rippon says he's well on his way to mastering a quad or two due in large part to his tutelage. That's good, because Arutunian himself isn't too interested in giving interviews.

    "I've never seen anybody hate it as much," Rippon said. "Ask him a question and he'll say, 'You see what they are doing' and walk away. And we'll say, 'Raf, they want a quote.'

    "NBC wanted to come in and interview everyone, and Raf is like, 'Not me.' He goes over to me and Ashley and says, 'Do I have to?' And we said, 'No, you don't have to do anything you don't want to do.'"
    ...
    "You could call him, but it will be a short conversation," Rippon said. "His attitude is, 'if you put it out there, you will get the scores.' That's his mentality. If you can walk the walk, [then] that will talk the talk for you."
    Last edited by Sylvia; 10-17-2013 at 12:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
    My dark horse pick for a very good season Stephen Carriere
    I'm going to be watching him, too, this season. I think he along with Jason Brown will be moving up in the standings at Nationals....which means someone will be heading in the opposite direction.

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    lol good observation merrywidow (& I concur).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Cross-posting from the Kiss and Cry forum... Here's a pre-Skate America article on Rippon (and why he and Wagner must speak for Rafael Arutunian): http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/10/16/63016604
    ETA an excerpt:
    Thanks for posting that excerpt, Sylvia. Rafael has the right idea, I think. In any case, unless you're asked relevant, informed and intriguing questions by a skilled interviewer (which rarely happens in figure skating), interviews can be corny, redundant time-wasters.

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    Adam Rippon won his first Grand Prix silver medal & Max Aaron his first Grand Prix medal (bronze) in his first GP: 2013 Skate America Men's podium photo
    Jason Brown was 2nd in the SP and finished 5th overall in his GP debut.

    Skate America articles:
    FS recap: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/10/19/63170786
    SP recap: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/10/18/63126598
    Pre-competition news on Rippon & Brown: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/...meets-waterloo

    ETA Videos:
    2. Rippon: SP (3rd) / FS (3rd)
    3. Aaron: SP (6th) / FS (2nd)
    5. Brown: SP (2nd) / FS (6th)
    Last edited by Sylvia; 10-21-2013 at 02:12 AM.
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    ^Thanks, Sylvia.

    Not bad at all for the US men, despite a couple of mistakes. It's apparent international judges are liking what they see.

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    Edited: NBC showed the free skates on tape of Aaron, Rippon and Brown, plus a brief interview afterwards with a confident-sounding Rippon.

    Borrowing Cyn's idea and reformatting slightly... here is the updated international scores list after Skate America.

    Senior Men International Short Program Scores:

    SP Score, Name, TES, PCS, Deductions (if any)
    83.78 Jason Brown 44.85 + 38.93 - 0.00 Skate America, 2nd
    81.49 Max Aaron 44.57 + 36.92 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    80.26 Adam Rippon 43.23 + 37.03 - 0.00 Skate America, 3rd
    79.41 Jason Brown 43.38 + 36.03 - 0.00 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    77.48 Stephen Carriere 42.89 + 34.59 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    75.91 Max Aaron 41.37 + 35.54 - 1.00 Skate America, 6th
    74.28 Ross Miner 38.11 + 37.17 - 1.00 Nepela Trophy, 3rd
    71.89 Douglas Razzano 39.02 + 33.87 = 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 3rd
    71.85 Joshua Farris 37.67 + 34.18 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    65.82 Richard Dornbush 29.45 + 36.37 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 8th
    63.29 Grant Hochstein 33.13 + 31.16 - 1.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th

    Senior Men International Free Skate Scores:

    FS Score, Name, TES, PCS, Deductions (if any)
    162.45 Max Aaron 90.47 + 72.98 - 1.00 Skate America, 2nd
    160.98 Adam Rippon 79.90 + 82.08 - 1.00 Skate America, 3rd
    157.72 Max Aaron 81.88 + 75.84 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    157.70 Jeremy Abbott 74.20 + 84.50 - 1.00 Japan Open (FS only)
    149.02 Jason Brown 73.80 + 72.22 - 0.00 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    148.06 Stephen Carriere 76.88 + 73.18 - 2.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    147.25 Jason Brown 68.69 + 79.56 - 1.00 Skate America, 6th
    140.89 Richard Dornbush 66.73 + 75.16 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 4th
    136.59 Ross Miner 61.09 + 75.50 - 0.00 Nepela Trophy, 4th
    134.71 Joshua Farris 57.37 + 78.34 - 1.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    128.62 Grant Hochstein 60.94 + 69.68 - 2.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th
    127.42 Douglas Razzano 59.58 + 68.84 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 7th

    Senior Men International Total Scores:

    Total Score, Name, SP Score, FS Score, International Event:
    241.24 Adam Rippon 80.26 + 160.98 Skate America, 2nd
    239.21 Max Aaron 81.49 + 157.72 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    238.36 Max Aaron 75.91 + 162.45 Skate America, 3rd
    231.03 Jason Brown 83.78 + 147.25 Skate America, 5th
    228.43 Jason Brown 79.41 + 149.02 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    225.54 Stephen Carriere 77.48 + 148.06 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    210.87 Ross Miner 74.28 + 136.59 Nepela Trophy, 4th
    206.71 Richard Dornbush 65.82 + 140.89 Finlandia Trophy, 4th
    206.56 Joshua Farris 71.85 + 134.71 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    199.31 Douglas Razzano 71.89 + 127.42 Finlandia Trophy, 6th
    191.91 Grant Hochstein 63.29 + 128.62 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th

    To come:
    Skate Canada: Abbott, Farris, Miner
    Cup of China: Dornbush
    NHK Trophy: Aaron, Abbott, Rippon
    TEB: Brown, Miner
    Rostelecom Cup: Dornbush, Farris
    Ice Challenge (Sr. B in Graz, Austria): TBA

    Junior Men International Total Scores:

    Total Score, Name, SP Score, FS Score, International Event:
    218.62 Nathan Chen 74.22 + 144.40 JGP Mexico, 1st
    211.11 Nathan Chen 69.96 + 141.15 JGP Belarus, 1st
    183.15 Shotaro Omori 70.58 + 112.57 JGP Slovakia, 5th (Senior in U.S.)
    165.75 Jordan Moeller 51.06 + JGP Poland, 6th
    158.74 Jordan Moeller 52.98 + 105.76 JGP Latvia, 9th
    147.79 Jimmy Ma 56.31 + 91.48 JGP Latvia, 13th
    133.22 Nix Phengsy 41.56 + 91.66 JGP Slovakia, 16th
    130.36 Brian Krentz 41.27 + 89.09 JGP Poland, 19th
    123.54 Spencer Howe 44.66 + 78.88 JGP Belarus, 15th

    Junior Grand Prix Final (Dec. 5-8, 2013): Nathan Chen
    Last edited by Sylvia; 10-21-2013 at 05:06 AM. Reason: To add international scores
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    Post-Skate America article about the U.S. men and quads with quotes by Aaron and Rippon: http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/201...ing-quad-race/

    Here's a short video clip of Adam Rippon working on his 4Lz in a 10/19 Skate America practice - his second attempt looks decent: http://instagram.com/p/fqae-nsxG9/
    Last edited by Sylvia; 10-21-2013 at 06:39 PM.
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    That was a great article, Aaron blew me away with his confidence as always.

    That said, the dark horse at Nationals just may be Adam Rippon. I already picked Courtney Hicks as my dark horse pick early in the season and she's living up to it thus far (knock on wood), but as for the men I just don't know. But the ONE thing I do know is that the dark horse pick is going to need *confidence* and plenty of it. And confidence comes with being able to do the tricks over & over again ad infinitum until mastered. Lol sometimes one doesn't even need that, one's just born with confidence and natural ability (aka Evgeni Plushenko).

    Hmm, I'll go out on a limb though and say the following guys will not make the cut at Nationals: Messing (he lives up to his surname unfortunately), Razzano, et al, and also Joshua Farris because he just doesn't seem to have the confidence (he'll be skittish at Nationals imho, intimidated by the others), and Miner just because.

    To me it'll be between Max, Jason, Adam, and Jeremy. And as Jeremy nearly always seems to skate his best at Nationals I'll pick him as one of the winners (though IIRC only the winner is guaranteed a spot, whereas the second spot is up to the USFSA?). So if Max messes up his quads Jason (with a perfect SP & FS) will also be on the Team. And Adam is the dark horse. If he lands his quad lutz and skates two clean programs he wins. jmho.

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    Rippon showed fantastic attack at Skate America and earned those high PCS. If Abbott isn't going to make it, I hope Rippon does.

    I guess having two of Rippon, Farris and Brown make the Sochi Team wouldn't be all bad. (I know, hell has to freeze over for Aaron not to make it, but still...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NadineWhite View Post
    (though IIRC only the winner is guaranteed a spot, whereas the second spot is up to the USFSA?).
    I think this is the rule for worlds. Although it will almost always go this way, technically, so they do not become a "trials" (IIRC so they do not have to pay all the associated fees to the IOC, or something) no one is guaranteed an Olympic spot.


    My dream team is Rippon and Aaron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NadineWhite View Post
    That was a great article, Aaron blew me away with his confidence as always.

    That said, the dark horse at Nationals just may be Adam Rippon. I already picked Courtney Hicks as my dark horse pick early in the season and she's living up to it thus far (knock on wood), but as for the men I just don't know. But the ONE thing I do know is that the dark horse pick is going to need *confidence* and plenty of it. And confidence comes with being able to do the tricks over & over again ad infinitum until mastered. Lol sometimes one doesn't even need that, one's just born with confidence and natural ability (aka Evgeni Plushenko).

    Hmm, I'll go out on a limb though and say the following guys will not make the cut at Nationals: Messing (he lives up to his surname unfortunately), Razzano, et al, and also Joshua Farris because he just doesn't seem to have the confidence (he'll be skittish at Nationals imho, intimidated by the others), and Miner just because.

    To me it'll be between Max, Jason, Adam, and Jeremy. And as Jeremy nearly always seems to skate his best at Nationals I'll pick him as one of the winners (though IIRC only the winner is guaranteed a spot, whereas the second spot is up to the USFSA?). So if Max messes up his quads Jason (with a perfect SP & FS) will also be on the Team. And Adam is the dark horse. If he lands his quad lutz and skates two clean programs he wins. jmho.
    You don't even mention Richard Dornbush? At his best he can be better than Rippon and Aaron!

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    Many talented young men who were supposed to be the next star didnt manage to keep the momentum. Carriere, Mroz, Rippon, Dornbush. Nationals will be a big test for Aaron. Miner is lucky enough to be in the shadow despite being on the podium three years in a row

    I think Farris has a shot, as is Miner since nationals will be in Boston.

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    Just saw the run through of Miner's FS at SC and it's even worse than I imagined.

    "Running" poses, 2 explosion sound effects, heroic "we shall overcome" type music, etc...

    All that was missing was him miming having lost a leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casken View Post

    All that was missing was him miming having lost a leg.
    Thankfully he had good enough taste to skip that; but he could have ended the problem with a full ice one foot step sequence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skittl1321 View Post
    Thankfully he had good enough taste to skip that; but he could have ended the problem with a full ice one foot step sequence...
    OMG

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    Debut of Jeremy Abbott's SP (remixed version of "Lilies of the Valley" from the Pina soundtrack, choreographed by Robin Cousins) - a partial run through in the first Skate Canada practice earlier today (4T step out, 3Lz+3T, 3A, circular footwork at end) from the live stream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYJVvftAMn8

    I forgot to cross-post the pre-Skate Canada article on Joshua Farris in this thread: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2013/10/21/63206796
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isnít every four years, itís every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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