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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Debut of Jeremy Abbott's SP (remixed version of "Lilies of the Valley" from the Pina soundtrack, choreographed by Robin Cousins) - a partial run through in the first Skate Canada practice earlier today (4T step out, 3Lz+3T, 3A, circular footwork at end) from the live stream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYJVvftAMn8
    Abbott's jumps! If he lands them, that's a thing of beauty, big, high, springy, and think about he's 28.
    Adam Rippon is also impressive. Last year, I thought he's done, and then he came back strong this season. So many surprises this season.

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    The post run-through practice was something to behold. Everyone was landing quads left and right. Noticeably Oda. I saw Abbott land a gorgeous one but he also popped most of his other attempts.

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    Here are my thoughts from the K&C: (copied & pasted verbatim)



    As for Jeremy Abbott, I didn't like the music at first, then it gradually got to me, mainly because Jeremy Abbott can make something out of nothing. The way he moves and expresses the music is pure delight & poetry. Btw, love his gloves, lol.

    Ross Miner was a surprising delight to me. I had forgotten how smooth of a skater he is, and I liked his sp music way more than I did Jeremy's.

    Joshua Farris is also a smooth skater that expresses the music very well (shades of Jeremy Abbott in the FS). However, I was disappointed not to see any jumps for his SP and only a few late in his FS, but I can see why, he totally popped the 3R at the end and had a weird fall doing nothing whilst getting ready to skate backwards. Still, I really enjoyed his FS to "Schindler's List", it enraptured me. Can definitely see this as a masterpiece.

    All in all it's going to be a dogfight at Nationals judging by these three smooth and musical skaters, not to mention there's Jason Brown, Adam Rippon, and of course the quadster Max Aaron.

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    Here is the updated Senior international scores list after Skate Canada.

    I can add some video links (waiting for Men's FS from British Eurosport) later; NBC is scheduled to broadcast Skate Canada this afternoon (check your local listings); Johnny Weir will be one of the commentators.

    Senior Men International Total Scores:

    Total Score, Name, SP Score, FS Score, International Event:
    241.24 Adam Rippon 80.26 + 160.98 Skate America, 2nd
    239.21 Max Aaron 81.49 + 157.72 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    238.36 Max Aaron 75.91 + 162.45 Skate America, 3rd
    231.03 Jason Brown 83.78 + 147.25 Skate America, 5th
    228.43 Jason Brown 79.41 + 149.02 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    225.54 Stephen Carriere 77.48 + 148.06 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    216.72 Joshua Farris 69.14 + 147.58 Skate Canada, 5th
    215.95 Jeremy Abbott 74.58 + 141.37 Skate Canada, 6th

    210.87 Ross Miner 74.28 + 136.59 Nepela Trophy, 4th
    206.71 Richard Dornbush 65.82 + 140.89 Finlandia Trophy, 4th
    206.56 Joshua Farris 71.85 + 134.71 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    199.31 Douglas Razzano 71.89 + 127.42 Finlandia Trophy, 6th
    196.89 Ross Miner 66.71 + 130.18 Skate Canada, 9th
    191.91 Grant Hochstein 63.29 + 128.62 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th

    Senior Men International Short Program Scores:

    SP Score, Name, TES, PCS, Deductions (if any)
    83.78 Jason Brown 44.85 + 38.93 - 0.00 Skate America, 2nd
    81.49 Max Aaron 44.57 + 36.92 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    80.26 Adam Rippon 43.23 + 37.03 - 0.00 Skate America, 3rd
    79.41 Jason Brown 43.38 + 36.03 - 0.00 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    77.48 Stephen Carriere 42.89 + 34.59 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    75.91 Max Aaron 41.37 + 35.54 - 1.00 Skate America, 6th
    74.58 Jeremy Abbott 35.30 + 39.28 - 0.00 Skate Canada, 4th
    74.28 Ross Miner 38.11 + 37.17 - 1.00 Nepela Trophy, 3rd
    71.89 Douglas Razzano 39.02 + 33.87 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 3rd
    71.85 Joshua Farris 37.67 + 34.18 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    69.14 Joshua Farris 33.11 + 36.03 - 0.00 Skate Canada, 8th
    66.71 Ross Miner 32.15 + 36.56 - 2.00 Skate Canada, 10th

    65.82 Richard Dornbush 29.45 + 36.37 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 8th
    63.29 Grant Hochstein 33.13 + 31.16 - 1.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th

    Senior Men International Free Skate Scores:

    FS Score, Name, TES, PCS, Deductions (if any)
    162.45 Max Aaron 90.47 + 72.98 - 1.00 Skate America, 2nd
    160.98 Adam Rippon 79.90 + 82.08 - 1.00 Skate America, 3rd
    157.72 Max Aaron 81.88 + 75.84 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    157.70 Jeremy Abbott 74.20 + 84.50 - 1.00 Japan Open (FS only)
    149.02 Jason Brown 73.80 + 72.22 - 0.00 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    148.06 Stephen Carriere 76.88 + 73.18 - 2.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    147.58 Joshua Farris 74.80 + 73.78 - 1.00 Skate Canada, 4th
    147.25 Jason Brown 68.69 + 79.56 - 1.00 Skate America, 6th
    141.37 Jeremy Abbott 65.59 + 77.78 - 2.00 Skate Canada, 6th
    140.89 Richard Dornbush 66.73 + 75.16 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 4th
    136.59 Ross Miner 61.09 + 75.50 - 0.00 Nepela Trophy, 4th
    134.71 Joshua Farris 57.37 + 78.34 - 1.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    130.18 Ross Miner 60.54 + 69.64 - 0.00 Skate Canada, 8th
    128.62 Grant Hochstein 60.94 + 69.68 - 2.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th
    127.42 Douglas Razzano 59.58 + 68.84 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 7th

    To come:
    Cup of China: Dornbush
    NHK Trophy: Aaron, Abbott, Rippon
    TEB: Brown, Miner
    Rostelecom Cup: Dornbush, Farris
    Last edited by Sylvia; 10-27-2013 at 11:56 AM.
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    Well it looks like Aaron & Rippon are leading with Jason Brown close on their heels. But as we all know statistics means nothing when it comes to making the Olympic Team. Anything, and I mean anything can happen, statistics be damned!

    altius, citius, fortius

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    I'd much rather Jason or even Joshua went to Sochi then Max or Adam. Time to look to the future. Max is lost when his quads aren't there and Adam to me just lack something.

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    @universalsports tweeted yesterday:
    Watch @jennycavnar's conversation with @MaxTAaron of @USFigureSkating on #Countdown2Sochi tomorrow [Wed. 10/30] night at 8 PM ET http://pic.twitter.com/L6awQI52W0
    TanithandBenFan found and posted this link to the 15-minute interview ("Countdown Conversation") with Max in the TV Alerts forum (may be geoblocked outside the U.S.): http://universalsports.com/video/cou...ion-max-aaron/
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Here is the updated Senior international scores list after Skate Canada.
    Wow, thanks for compiling these lists! Very interesting to see all the scores back to back.

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    Here is the updated Senior international scores list after Cup of China.

    Edited to add link to Dornbush's Cup of China FS (Russian commentary): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYuNeTeuLg4
    Jumps: 4T< fall, 3S (-1.40; planned quad), 3A / [6 triples landed in 2nd half] 3S+2T, 3A+3T, 3Lz+2T+2Lo, 3F, 3Lo.

    From Skate Canada last week:
    Abbott's SP (British Eurosport): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsfSo4vqj9M (first 4T landed in his short since 2008 Worlds?)
    Farris' FS (no commentary): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsygOJRfMXQ (4T fall, 6 of 7 triples landed)

    Senior Men International Total Scores:

    Total Score, Name, SP Score, FS Score, International Event:
    241.24 Adam Rippon 80.26 + 160.98 Skate America, 2nd [#5 on ISU SB list]
    239.21 Max Aaron 81.49 + 157.72 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    238.36 Max Aaron 75.91 + 162.45 Skate America, 3rd [#7 on ISU SB list]
    231.03 Jason Brown 83.78 + 147.25 Skate America, 5th [#10 on ISU SB list]
    228.43 Jason Brown 79.41 + 149.02 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    225.54 Stephen Carriere 77.48 + 148.06 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    218.57 Richard Dornbush 72.58 + 145.99 Cup of China, 5th
    216.72 Joshua Farris 69.14 + 147.58 Skate Canada, 5th
    215.95 Jeremy Abbott 74.58 + 141.37 Skate Canada, 6th
    210.87 Ross Miner 74.28 + 136.59 Nepela Trophy, 4th
    206.71 Richard Dornbush 65.82 + 140.89 Finlandia Trophy, 4th
    206.56 Joshua Farris 71.85 + 134.71 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    199.31 Douglas Razzano 71.89 + 127.42 Finlandia Trophy, 6th
    196.89 Ross Miner 66.71 + 130.18 Skate Canada, 9th
    191.91 Grant Hochstein 63.29 + 128.62 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th

    Senior Men International Short Program Scores:

    SP Score, Name, TES, PCS, Deductions (if any)
    83.78 Jason Brown 44.85 + 38.93 - 0.00 Skate America, 2nd
    81.49 Max Aaron 44.57 + 36.92 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    80.26 Adam Rippon 43.23 + 37.03 - 0.00 Skate America, 3rd
    79.41 Jason Brown 43.38 + 36.03 - 0.00 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    77.48 Stephen Carriere 42.89 + 34.59 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    75.91 Max Aaron 41.37 + 35.54 - 1.00 Skate America, 6th
    74.58 Jeremy Abbott 35.30 + 39.28 - 0.00 Skate Canada, 4th
    74.28 Ross Miner 38.11 + 37.17 - 1.00 Nepela Trophy, 3rd
    72.58 Richard Dornbush 36.47 + 36.11 - 0.00 Cup of China, 6th
    71.89 Douglas Razzano 39.02 + 33.87 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 3rd
    71.85 Joshua Farris 37.67 + 34.18 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    69.14 Joshua Farris 33.11 + 36.03 - 0.00 Skate Canada, 8th
    66.71 Ross Miner 32.15 + 36.56 - 2.00 Skate Canada, 10th
    65.82 Richard Dornbush 29.45 + 36.37 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 8th
    63.29 Grant Hochstein 33.13 + 31.16 - 1.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th

    Senior Men International Free Skate Scores:

    FS Score, Name, TES, PCS, Deductions (if any)
    162.45 Max Aaron 90.47 + 72.98 - 1.00 Skate America, 2nd
    160.98 Adam Rippon 79.90 + 82.08 - 1.00 Skate America, 3rd
    157.72 Max Aaron 81.88 + 75.84 - 0.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 1st
    157.70 Jeremy Abbott 74.20 + 84.50 - 1.00 Japan Open (FS only)
    149.02 Jason Brown 73.80 + 72.22 - 0.00 Nebelhorn Trophy, 2nd
    148.06 Stephen Carriere 76.88 + 73.18 - 2.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 2nd
    147.58 Joshua Farris 74.80 + 73.78 - 1.00 Skate Canada, 4th
    147.25 Jason Brown 68.69 + 79.56 - 1.00 Skate America, 6th
    145.99 Richard Dornbush 76.61 + 70.38 - 1.00 Cup of China, 4th
    141.37 Jeremy Abbott 65.59 + 77.78 - 2.00 Skate Canada, 6th
    140.89 Richard Dornbush 66.73 + 75.16 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 4th
    136.59 Ross Miner 61.09 + 75.50 - 0.00 Nepela Trophy, 4th
    134.71 Joshua Farris 57.37 + 78.34 - 1.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 3rd
    130.18 Ross Miner 60.54 + 69.64 - 0.00 Skate Canada, 8th
    128.62 Grant Hochstein 60.94 + 69.68 - 2.00 U.S. International Figure Skating Classic, 4th
    127.42 Douglas Razzano 59.58 + 68.84 - 1.00 Finlandia Trophy, 7th

    To come:
    NHK Trophy: Aaron, Abbott, Rippon
    TEB: Brown, Miner
    Rostelecom Cup: Dornbush, Farris
    Last edited by Sylvia; 11-03-2013 at 12:00 PM. Reason: To add Dornbush FS video link
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    Looks like getting to Sochi is going to be a challenge for Jeremy. While I don't expect him to lose to Carriere, beating three of Jason, Josh, Max, and Adam is not going to be a walk in the park.

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    It's still so wide open for those Olympic spots. No one is really making a major play for it so far on the GP. Nationals is going to be fascinating.

    I was worried after Jason's LP at Skate America that he really put himself in a difficult position to make the team, but having seen Abbott, Miner, Dornbush and Farris now, I'm not so sure. I think Adam did well at Skate America because there wasn't a huge expectation that he would; I anticipate he'll be under a larger amount of stress next week in Japan.

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    My dream team would be Jason and Adam, as they are my two favorite skaters and also the two seem more put together. If Max improves in his next event though and doesn't struggle as much as he did at SA, his chances are much greater, but nobody is a lock so far, and from what I've seen Jason and Adam just seem to be more secure.

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    Stephen Carriere is my dark horse pick.

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    My predictions for Nationals--Max, Jason, Adam, Joshua


    Quote Originally Posted by reese View Post
    It's still so wide open for those Olympic spots. No one is really making a major play for it so far on the GP. Nationals is going to be fascinating.

    I was worried after Jason's LP at Skate America that he really put himself in a difficult position to make the team, but having seen Abbott, Miner, Dornbush and Farris now, I'm not so sure. I think Adam did well at Skate America because there wasn't a huge expectation that he would; I anticipate he'll be under a larger amount of stress next week in Japan.

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    I haven't been impressed with Dornbush since his silver medal win at Nationals two years ago. It seems like his skating is on the decline. Aside from the jumps issues, his programs are just blah.

    I think Adam is my favorite U.S. man so far this season. I haven't been a big fan of his in the past, but I like the attack he has shown this year. I hope he makes the Olympic team.

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    Interview with Richard Dornbush published before Cup of China: http://skateguard1.blogspot.com/2013...-dornbush.html
    Excerpt:
    Q: What has been the best part and worst part of balancing skating and your secondary education?

    A: The worst part has definitely been sleep deprivation... haha! It's definitely an added stress being in college (I was full time in the spring) while in training. I missed about three and a half weeks of lecture in the fall because of competitions and shows, which is a huge difficulty because not only do I have to focus on performing well in my shows but also on teaching myself the material I'm missing. When the material is Differential Equations, Linear Algebra and Physics, that can be an extremely daunting task all on its own! The benefit is that both skating and school are great diversions from the other. There's always something to turn to if either one seems insurmountable. Another great thing is that I can't remember the last time I was nervous for a test. I actually mentioned in my application essay to UCLA about how strange it would be to worry about an exam when just a week earlier I could literally have fallen in front of thousands of people! I also feel like skating taught me how to be an excellent student. I have a 4.0 and I can tell you without reservation that the reason for my good grades is preparation. I think about studying for a class the same way I do about training for a competition. You have to practice enough to be confident not in winning, but merely being in the top percent, which as difficult as it is isn't as bad as trying to outskate the best in the world.
    On the NBC telecast today, Terry Gannon mentioned that Ricky will start at UCLA after this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    I haven't been impressed with Dornbush since his silver medal win at Nationals two years ago. It seems like his skating is on the decline. Aside from the jumps issues, his programs are just blah.
    Dornbush had great SP's for the last 3 seasons but no good LP to back it up. The LP's have been... after 2011 US Nats.

    I'd like to see him try Vivaldi's "Four Seasons" as a LP.
    Last edited by AliasJohnDoe; 11-03-2013 at 10:55 PM.

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    I think Dornbush has perhaps bitten off more than he can chew: going for 2 different quads in his programs and attending school full-time while maintaining a 4.0. He needs to give on his programs (I think his education matters more). Perhaps concentrate on a Quad Toe and that's it. Once he starts at UCLA, his time-crunch will only get worse and any travel time will become greater. Maybe, he will retire after this season to concentrate on school.

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    Jason is a beautiful skater, but unless he ups his technical from Skate America he will have a hard time being on the podium. His 3A just isn't that strong (or at least it wasn't at SKAM). If he does get that technical, he will definitely be a force to be reckoned with. He has plenty of time, though. How old is he - 18 or 19?

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    ^^ Jason Brown will be 19 on December 15. Happy upcoming birthday, Jason!

    Good luck to all the U.S. men this season.

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