View Poll Results: Who won the 1988 Olympic long program?

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  • Katarina Witt

    3 3.75%
  • Elizabeth Manley

    37 46.25%
  • Midori Ito

    36 45.00%
  • Debi Thomas

    2 2.50%
  • Jill Trenary

    0 0%
  • Claudia Leistner

    2 2.50%
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    Who won the 1988 Olympic long program?

    Who was number one in the free program? And how would you rank these?

    Katarina Witt

    Elizabeth Manley

    Midori Ito

    Debi Thomas

    Jill Trenary

    Claudia Leistner

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    Leistner, for squeezing 700 different music cuts into 4 minutes. Gotta love the 1980s.

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    I also liked Anna Kondrashova's skate to "Grand Piano Being Pushed Down A Flight Of Stairs....In E Flat."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_8XhM4n6wo

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    The actual LP placements in Calgary were:

    1. Elizabeth Manley
    2. Katarina Witt
    3. Midori Ito
    4. Debi Thomas
    5. Jill Trenary
    6. Claudia Leistner

    My rankings:

    1. Manley
    2. Ito
    3. Witt
    4. Trenary
    5. Thomas
    6. Leistner
    "I hit him with my shoes... if he had given me the medal like I told him to, I wouldn't have had to hit him!" -- 8-year-old Rhoda Penmark in "The Bad Seed"

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    The actual LP placements in Calgary were:

    1. Elizabeth Manley
    2. Katarina Witt
    3. Midori Ito
    4. Debi Thomas
    5. Jill Trenary
    6. Claudia Leistner

    My rankings:

    1. Manley
    2. Ito
    3. Witt
    4. Trenary
    5. Thomas
    6. Leistner
    My rankings are the same but I have Ito winning over Manley in the LP. I think if the SP and figures results were the same Manley would have won with that scenario, not sure Ito could have won any medal though after her figures.

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    If the free skates were ranked by height, that awkward eight foot tall girl, Marina Kiellmann, would have won by a landslide.

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    Big, tall and awkward German ladies seem to be good at figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lnt175 View Post
    My rankings are the same but I have Ito winning over Manley in the LP. I think if the SP and figures results were the same Manley would have won with that scenario, not sure Ito could have won any medal though after her figures.
    The final results in this scenario are:

    1. Manley
    2. Witt
    3. Thomas
    4. Ito
    5. Trenary
    6. Ivanova

    which does not look bad considering what actually happened on the ice over the three sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by essence_of_soy View Post
    Leistner, for squeezing 700 different music cuts into 4 minutes. Gotta love the 1980s.
    That almost convinced me to vote for Leistner. That music edit really was an impressive feat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by essence_of_soy View Post
    Leistner, for squeezing 700 different music cuts into 4 minutes. Gotta love the 1980s.
    pity the poor Skating Music Database that had to list all the music used

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    Quote Originally Posted by essence_of_soy View Post
    I also liked Anna Kondrashova's skate to "Grand Piano Being Pushed Down A Flight Of Stairs....In E Flat."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_8XhM4n6wo
    That made me genuinely LOL

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    I think if Ito had skated in the final flight and AFTER Witt we may have seen Manley win the whole thing with Ito bumping Kat down. Maybe...

    Ito won that LP, my gosh. If Manley had skated the glorious long she skated in Geneva I would have scored it higher than Ito's skate in Calgary. Sorry but her 1988 "Best of" LP totally lacked sophistication and was too much of a collage to represent a cohesive whole that's olympic worthy. Mixing a concerto with cartoon music...I mean pleez...

    Has anyone seen this? Manley at her very very best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRkq1kh8fTA
    To me this would be one of the very top ladies LP skates of the 1980s. Not much I'd put ahead of this and if you were to put something ahead of this it should have at least 4 different triples.
    Last edited by Rock2; 07-20-2013 at 10:48 PM. Reason: forgot something

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    Yeah. That tall awkward German gal got some votes!

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    Manleys 86 World long program was better than her Olympic one. Even she said so in her interview after. The 88 one just reached a much higher emotional pitch due to the circumstances.

    I thought Ito had the best long but I would definitely put Manley 1st, Ito 2nd, Witt 3rd to get the correct result which was Manley winning. Ito had no chance of a medal anyway.

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    Manleys 86 world program was the best skate for sure at those worlds. Thomas and Witt were very good too, but their tech difficulty really was of lesser quality of Ito and Manley and Chin was past her prime. Its too bad she took herself out of the running after figures and SP.

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    Manley, but Ito is a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lnt175 View Post
    Manleys 86 world program was the best skate for sure at those worlds. Thomas and Witt were very good too, but their tech difficulty really was of lesser quality of Ito and Manley and Chin was past her prime. Its too bad she took herself out of the running after figures and SP.
    She took herself out of the running when losing the Canadian title to Wainman. The judges were never going to take her seriously at Worlds that year after that, and probably had alot to do with her figures placing too.

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    Manley's skate at nats must have been really bad that year because Wainman won with one heavily-stalked 3S as her only triple in the whole event!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock2 View Post
    Manley's skate at nats must have been really bad that year because Wainman won with one heavily-stalked 3S as her only triple in the whole event!
    It probably wasnt that bad as Wilkes mentioned Manley landed more triples, which to me implies atleast 3 landed. It was funny to see them shrieking in horror over Wainman's scores and even screaming out loud they were criminal when she had 5.6s and 5.7s for only one triple. What a joke. I think it was a sentimenal gift to Tracy to win that year. Manley probably had only one small mistake and that was enough of an excuse.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGkTdPAwGZc

    Here is Wainmann from that event, complete with the cheerleading Wainmann lovefest squad of Wiles, Pockar, and Essaw in the booth. I remember reading in the paper that Manley was extremely upset about the result and felt robbed even though she didnt skate her very best that night.

    WTF at their reaction to her technical marks which were way too high, yet they call criminal and go beserk for being too low.
    Last edited by butyrskafanatic; 07-21-2013 at 02:51 PM.

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