Woohoo how this thread turned into a Lambiel dispute thread
You mean he has too much choreography ? Anyway, "too much movements" is funny coming from someone who's favorite skater in many people's opinion moves his arms way too much, and also does footwork that often looks too busy and frantic . I didn't write that to put him down - I too think that sometimes he overdoes with those things, but I still like and respect him, and also think that those arm movements and footwork is a part of his style. I was just surprised with your comment about "too much movements". As for strength - I can't agree. Stephane has a more fragile body type (the top half at least ), but in his programs he often does things that are physically difficult and tiring.For me he is too busy on ice, he did too much movements, annoys me,and he lacks of strength. Stef is a bit overact that he is very artistic, he is too much for me. This is matter of taste.
Yes, part if what you said is a matter of taste, but not everything - not about "strength" and "fragile", not about "not diverse", and not really about "nice guy". That is my opinion.
That comment was not about you. I just know that there are a lot of people who think that both figure skating and ballet are feminine as a whole - they are ignoring the athletic part of it.Alexander Godunov wasn't feminine, and I also don't think that Tsiskaridze was too feminine on stage.
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Have to go with the crowd on this one...Kurt Browning
And yes, my favorite is a real man on ice, he has masculine power, like Joubert's.
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Actually I wouldn't even call your opinion an "opinion" - it's more just your taste. You like more "masculine" skaters than Lambiel, and that is fine. But you could have just said so from the start - there was no need to write that he is not diverse, and that all his programs are "similar" just because he is not in your taste, and because you haven't paid attention to the many things that are different in his programs. But okay, I think we can simply agree to disagree.
I wrote what many other people think about your favorite skater - that was not my opinion. Although I partially agree, unlike those other people I also see other things in his skating that I like. And I know very well that Lambiel and Plushenko respect each other - I respect Plushenko too.
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I can call the moon a pear, but it doesn't make it so. -- kwanfan1818
It really has to do with personal preference for a style because I don't see Plushenko's range of programs being more diverse than Lambiel's.
I honestly thought this thread was about who's the best PRO skater in terms of variety/complexity/quality of programs (skating & movement) rather than this style versus that style.
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I also agree that it is probably one of the (many) best exhibition programs, but I don't think it's the best ever - especially because it's too difficult to compare it to more serious exhibition programs.
By the way, if Plushenko gets to skate in the Sochi gala show (which is very possible even if he is not in top five), it would be really great if he would skate that kind of funny program - especially if the show will be a parade of serious and lyrical/romantic programs which is very probable too. That would be fun indeed !
I must agree that both Plushenko and Lambiel have their flamboyance indeed - only Lambiel's flamboyance is still more sophisticated and, often, more toned down than Plushenko's.
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