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    Exclamation Plane crash at San Francisco Airport

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    Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 2m

    FAA confirms a Boeing 777 operated by Asiana Airlines crashed while landing at San Francisco International Airport - via @NBCNews
    -Flight reported to have originated in Taipei, Taiwan.

    -San Mateo Fire Department: People trapped on board Boeing 777 plane that crashed at San Francisco Int'l Airport.

    -Asiana Boeing 777 crash lands at SFO. Fuel problem first reports. https://www.youtube.com/embed/0dFtmSybpuw

    -CNN: The plane that crashed landed at SFO was Asiana Airlines Flight 214 from Seoul. (@stevebruskCNN)

    Talking Points Memo ‏@TPM 16s

    The plane that crashed in San Francisco can carry between 246 to 300 passengers: http://bit.ly/151BD5I
    http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/...ing-sfo/nYfcx/

    Posted: 11:41 a.m. Saturday, July 6, 2013

    Boeing 777 crashes while landing at SFO

    KTVU.com

    SFO —

    A plane crashed while landing at San Francisco International Airport Saturday morning after its tail came off while it was touching down on the runway.

    According to a witness, around 11:20 a.m. the plane was just about to land -- its landing gear had come down -- when the tail of the plane came off.

    After wobbling for a minute, the aircraft flipped upside down, coming to a stop on runway on it's back.

    The plane, reportedly a Boeing 777, was coming from South Korea, according to flight tracking information.

    Pictures: http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/l...aneYoutube.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOgz34dCUAAy3ih.jpg

    This photo, from @Eunner, who was *on* the plane, is reminiscent of the Miracle on the Hudson boat photo: https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HB...gX8w3nSpTIJmPs

    @Eunner: I just crash landed at SFO. Tail ripped off. Most everyone seems fine. I'm ok. Surreal.
    SFO air crash just now- Asiana air from So Korea, flips upside down after tail falls off. Here's cell phone video- http://bit.ly/10FY5lB

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...48650944_n.jpg
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    I sure hope they got everyone out ok ...

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    That photo from @Eunner does show many people walking away from the airplane, so hopefully all survived...although it looks like there might be injuries.

    EDIT: via Twitter...

    Brian Stelter ‏@brianstelter 2m
    Helicopter shots of the plane seen on CNN, etc are courtesy KTVU, the local Fox affiliate. Live stream: http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/ktvu-live-news/vtSfR/
    Michael Skolnik ‏@MichaelSkolnik 5m
    290 passengers + 1 infant + 12 crew members have all been accounted for (according to fire scanner). #SFOCrash
    PIX:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOg7J0fCcAAjOVc.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOg8OlgCAAEC2Ya.jpg:large

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/assets_...-custom_24.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOg91HeCcAA5BkD.png

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOg-NCsCIAAoJI8.png

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    Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 52s
    FAA says all flights out of San Francisco Airport are canceled in aftermath of crash landing - @KTVU
    Maeve Reston ‏@MaeveReston 23m
    Gate agent at SFO saying they have no idea how long ground stop will be at SFO. Buses are not allowed to move around tarmac due to crash
    EDIT2:

    Judging from the photos, the earlier report that the plane had flipped on its back was incorrect.

    EDIT3:

    BuzzFeed News ‏@BuzzFeedNews now
    RT @NTSB: NTSB sending "Go-Team" to San Francisco to investigate crash landing of an Asiana B-777.
    http://news.yahoo.com/faa-airliner-c...191557356.html

    FAA: Airliner crashes on landing in San Francisco
    TERRY COLLINS 2 minutes ago

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — An Asiana Airlines flight from Seoul, South Korea, crashed while landing at San Francisco International Airport on Saturday, forcing passengers to jump down the emergency inflatable slides to safety. It was not immediately known whether there were any injuries.

    The Boeing 777 was supposed to land on runway 28 left at the airport, said Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown. She said the sequence of events was still unclear, but it appeared the plane landed and then crashed.

    A video clip posted to YouTube shows smoke coming from a silver-colored jet on the tarmac. Passengers could be seen jumping down the inflatable emergency slides. Television footage showed debris strewn about the tarmac and pieces of the plane lying on the runway.

    Fire trucks had sprayed a white fire retardant on the wreckage.

    A call to the airline seeking comment wasn't immediately returned.
    EDIT4:

    David Eun ‏@Eunner 17m
    @kccnn I don't want to divert attention away from crash. Posted updates to let everyone know that majority of passengers seem ok.
    This is positive news!
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    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...#photo-4885061

    From the SF Chronicle. I hope there are minimal injuries but the pictures of the plane itself look awful.

    I was at SFO, landing on an international flight a few days ago.

    The article I linked says eyewitness state the plane's tail crashed into the ground. Landing at a wrong angle perhaps?
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    ATC audio from immediately before and after the crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kBLM-6dUGs I'm level-headed in a crisis, but air traffic controllers are their own species...

    Yeah it's unclear what the casualties are currently. KTVU says 2 dead, but they're also the ones who claimed the plane flipped on its back so I don't believe anything they say right now.

    Visibility was good, so it's either mechanical malfunction or pilot error. The debris field starts at the seawall, so it's possible the pilot came up short of the runway. -shudder-

    One of the first things I saw was the photo from the passenger who had gotten off, and it was a huge relief to see that people were okay.

    They've shut down SFO indefinitely, which is going to be a HUGE headache. HUGE. It's the largest airport in the Bay Area, and I bet OAK and SJC won't be able to take the overflow. But right now, what's most important is getting those passengers off safely and having everyone accounted for.
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    Praying that everyone got out of the plane. No confirmation yet on injuries, etc.

    Thank you Anita18 for the ATC audio.

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    CNN just reported that there are ten injured, all in critical condition.

    ETA: They just announced two fatalities related to the incident on CNN.
    Last edited by ballettmaus; 07-07-2013 at 12:31 AM.

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    It looks lke there will be far more than 2 fatalities when all is said and done. HOpe I'm wrong. Good to see so many getting off though, that was a major blaze.

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    As is often the case, some of the earlier information was incorrect. Here are some updates:

    - Last I heard, it was reported that the flight originated in Shanghai, China...not Taipei, Taiwan...connected through Seoul to SFO.

    - The majority of the passengers were Chinese (141), then South Korean (77), American (61) and Japanese (1).

    -At least 1/3 of the 307 passengers and crew were able to walk away from the crash under their own power; some had minor injuries.

    -The non-ambulatory injured were taken to at least six area hospitals, mostly to San Francisco, but some to San Mateo. Many are in critical condition.

    -The Coast Guard reported pulling one passenger from the water.

    EDIT: via Twitter...

    flySFO ‏@flySFO 2h
    2 runways have reopened. Please check with your airlines for updated arrival and departure information.
    The Boston Globe ‏@BostonGlobe 22m
    181 were initially transported to local hospitals; 49 were serious, official says at televised #sfoemergency news conference

    BuzzFeed News ‏@BuzzFeedNews 23m
    SFO Press Conference: 43 patients at SFGH; 11 are children

    BuzzFeed News ‏@BuzzFeedNews 26m
    Statement from @AsianaAirlines: "There were a total of 291 passengers (19 business class, 272 travel class) and 16 cabin crew aboard."

    Michael Rusch ‏@weeddude 2h
    Passenger: "...we were too low, when the pilot realized it, he put some more gas to correct it, but it was too late…" http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...214483741.html
    EDIT2:

    Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 48m
    Officials: 1 person unaccounted for after San Francisco plane crash; 181 transported to hospitals, 123 not injured - live video
    PIC: Overhead close-up of the plane

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOiGNPQCUAAhdyH.png

    "Asiana flight 214 from Seoul to San Francisco hit a seawall as it tried to land." http://m.cbsnews.com/postwatch.rbml?...cbsID=50150362
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    Looking at the photos of the plane, what a miracle people were able to walk away from crash site.

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    Here are some official condolence messages:

    Asiana Airlines ‏@AsianaAirlines 2h
    Our thoughts and prayers are with all the passengers, and flight crew on the flight. We hope to provide you with further info asap.

    Thank you for your concern and support at this time. We are currently investigating and will update with news as soon as possible. #SFO
    White House says Obama's "thoughts and prayers go out to the families who lost a loved one and all those affected by the crash."
    GOVERNOR BROWN ISSUES STATEMENT ON SAN FRANCISCO AIR TRAGEDY

    7-6-2013

    SACRAMENTO - Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. today issued the following statement regarding the crash of Asiana Flight 214 at San Francisco International Airport:

    “Anne and I extend our deepest concerns and sympathy to the passengers who were aboard Asiana Flight 214 and to their families. We are grateful for the courage and swift response of the first responders whose actions surely prevented an even greater tragedy.”
    Boeing declines to go on camera but says company "extends its deepest condolences to the families and friends of those who perished."
    The Associated Press ‏@AP 33m
    AP VIDEO: San Francisco mayor deeply saddened by airliner crash: http://apne.ws/13sUaMG -RJJ
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    From the pictures it looked like the plane hit the rock border around the runway because the debris start there. Captain Sully is of that opinion as well. Pilot error?

    Also, anyone in the Bay Area consider donating blood, they are short. More info here: https://www.bloodhero.com/index.cfm

    I am considering donating myself unless the fact that I just came from overseas precludes it.
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    Twitter:

    The Associated Press ‏@AP 5m
    BREAKING: San Francisco fire chief: Everyone accounted for in jetliner crash
    EDIT:

    BuzzFeed News ‏@BuzzFeedNews 1h
    Update: San Francisco General says they have received 52 patients, including at least 11 children, @CBSNews reports
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    A passenger says the plane was landing at a weird angle and the water level didn't look right with relation to the plane. http://news.yahoo.com/crash-survivor...opstories.html
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    Both people who died in SF crash were Chinese, South Korea official says. http://on.cnn.com/129rn9O

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    I saw this on CNN after I returned home tonight. The plane looks horrible; sorry for those who died and were seriously injured, but on the brighter side, over 190 passengers escaped without injuries. Five or six of the injured are in critical condition, so the number of dead could go up. RIP to the two individuals (both Chinese) who lost their lives.

    They showed the replay of the plane when it was about to land, but seemed to kind of land on its side. I am very familiar with this airport, as I have landed there many times when returning from abroad. This is when you mentally prepare to come to a stop, pick up your bags, go through customs, etc. What a shock it must have been for the survivors! Those without injuries are still at the airport, it seems. The rest are in the hospital.

    It sounded like the flight originated in Seoul, not Taipei.

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    Sorry to hear about this. The crash looks pretty bad. Hope those critically injured will recover soon.
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    On CNN they said that Boeing 777 is a fully automated airplane to fly, with very little hands on operation. I am wondering if it's a computer error, or do they still do the landing and take off manually?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    On CNN they said that Boeing 777 is a fully automated airplane to fly, with very little hands on operation. I am wondering if it's a computer error, or do they still do the landing and take off manually?
    The instrument systems on the runways were down for maintenance, so they were landing manually. Any professional pilot should have been able to make a manual landing during the day with clear visibility and low winds, which is presumably why SFO felt safe in taking the system down for maintenance. If the system was up, the landing would basically be automatic - you'd just follow the colored lights. They'd tell you if your angle of approach was correct or not.

    Also, keep in mind that not all airports have that system installed, even if the planes have the capability of landing with help from that computerized system. The pilots should all be capable of making a visual landing without them.

    OTOH, I hope it was honest pilot error and not some kind of cultural authoritarian issue. Korean airlines were notorious for crashes back in the 90s, because first officers didn't feel appropriate in overriding their captain. They finally made a concerted effort to encourage more democracy after a Korean Air cargo flight banked right into the ground thanks to an instrument failure...and a first officer unwilling to tell the captain his instrument was broken. Everyone died in the resulting explosion, but it was a cargo flight so it was only 4 crew members. (Not that 4 dead people is a good thing, but you know....)

    That was back in 1999 IIRC, and they were supposed to have fixed the culture since then.
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    ^^^ Oh yes Anita. I remembered watching this t.v. series on air crashes. Let's just wait for the investigation for the cause.
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