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    They did say on the news that some victims may have been vaporized because the heat was so intense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    They did say on the news that some victims may have been vaporized because the heat was so intense.
    What a horrible way to die! My sympathies to all the residents of that town. I read somewhere that they did not want this train going through their town.

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    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 37m
    Broken fuel line may be cause of late night fire on Lac Mégantic train http://bit.ly/1dbnhTm
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    Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 22s
    Canadian police say death toll in Quebec train disaster is now 13 - @Reuters
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    Photos: Lac-Mégantic residents deal with fallout from train blast
    The Globe and Mail
    Published Monday, Jul. 08 2013, 1:39 PM EDT
    Last updated Monday, Jul. 08 2013, 1:59 PM EDT

    Residents briefly return home to collect some belongings as authorities begin the task of searching for the missing in Lac-Mégantic. An unmanned train derailed in the small town Saturday, setting off a series of fiery explosions

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...medium=twitter

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-c...70#TWEET815000

    8 July 2013 Last updated at 13:51 ET

    Canada train blast search for 40 missing in Lac-Megantic

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    Dangerous conditions are hampering the search for 40 people missing after a runaway crude oil train blew up in a Quebec town, killing five.

    Fire crews were unable to search Lac-Megantic overnight because dozens of tanker wagons are strewn across the site after the blast early on Saturday.

    Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the place looked like "a warzone" as he toured the area on Sunday.

    At least 30 buildings were incinerated by the fireball.

    "It's an area that is still extremely risky," police spokesman Benoit Richard said on Monday. "The fire service decided they could not allow us to go there for security reasons. We'll see what we can do today."

    'Nightmare'

    Many of those missing were believed to have been drinking at a popular downtown bar when the explosions occurred, he added.

    Anne-Julie Huot, 27, said at least 25 people she knows are still missing.

    "I have a friend who was smoking outside the bar when it happened, and she barely got away, so we can guess what happened to the people inside," she told the Associated Press news agency. "It's like a nightmare."

    One man who escaped from the bar told CBC that he had not been able to sleep because he keeps hearing the screams of his friends.

    None of the dead have been identified, and the five bodies recovered so far, all badly burned, were being sent on Monday to Montreal for identification.

    Officials have warned that some of the dead may never be recovered, given the intensity of the fire.

    Police are encouraging family members of the missing to contact officials to help with the search.

    Among buildings in the town destroyed were a grocery store and the town library.
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    The news is grim and getting worse.

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    The last I read, 13 dead and 37 missing.

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    Thanks again dardar for all the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Thanks again dardar for all the information.
    You're welcome.

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    Lac-Mégantic residents to be allowed to return home Tuesday
    JILL MAHONEY
    The Globe and Mail
    Published Tuesday, Jul. 09 2013, 9:23 AM EDT
    Last updated Tuesday, Jul. 09 2013, 9:35 AM EDT

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    Hundreds of residents of Lac-Mégantic who abruptly fled their homes when a trainload of crude oil exploded in the town’s centre will be able to return home on Tuesday.

    Officials lifted the evacuation order for most of the town on Tuesday morning, two hours before the Transportation Safety Board of Canada is to hold a news briefing about their initial findings in the disaster, in which up to 50 people have either died or are still missing.

    Local residents are also expecting a visit from Ed Burkhardt, head of the Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway, the freight carrier behind the derailment. MMA has been much criticized for its media-shy reaction to the tragedy.
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    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 22s
    Opinion: What could prevent another Lac-Mégantic disaster? Sadly, not very much http://tgam.ca/DsfL #quebec
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    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 43m
    Video: Quebec train derailment survivor: I just ran http://bit.ly/11zl8Rw
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    Canadian police say death toll from Quebec train derailment, explosion rises to 15 - @Reuters
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    Police say they opened a criminal investigation into the Quebec train derailment; 15 dead, 50 missing - @Reuters http://bit.ly/12k0yDf
    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 4m
    The blame game is in full swing in the Lac-Mégantic tragedy http://bit.ly/11zV3ls
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    Quebec police say about 60 people are missing after fuel train explosion; number dead still 15. (@CBCAlerts)

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    OMG! This disaster is already so bad and the list of missing is getting longer.

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    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 11s
    From @GlobeQuebec: Video: Footage from Edward Burkhardt's press conference in Lac-Mégantic http://bit.ly/11COe2t
    Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 38m
    More: Engineer of derailed Quebec train suspended, head of company says; engineer claims he followed policy - @CBCAlerts
    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 43m
    Video: First hand account of Lac-Mégantic explosions from employee of destroyed bar http://bit.ly/1dj8YMv
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    The investigation suspects that not enough handbrakes were set on the train. The engineer said that he had set 11, but that needs to be verified, as per this article. I don't know anything about trains' brakes, but apparently a large number of them are needed (makes sense, considering the size). The engineer is understandably facing wrath of the community.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

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    Scary that something so simple could have caused so much death and destruction.

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    ^ Human error is so frequently the cause, whether it be a big-scale or small-scale incident.

    And the blame game has just begun. Yesterday it was a war of words between the train company management and the local fire dept. No doubt this will continue for some time.

    And meanwhile the people of Lac-Mégantic continue to live this tragedy -- bad enough not knowing how it happened, but not knowing what happened to your friends and neighbours? I just can't imagine.

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    MORE: Police say Quebec train crash death toll is now at 20; 30 others are still considered missing: http://apne.ws/189FxQb -MM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis@BC View Post
    ^ Human error is so frequently the cause, whether it be a big-scale or small-scale incident. .
    Not necessarily and when you are investigator it is a dangerous assumption to make. I did a fantastic incident investigation course a few years ago as part of my job which takes into account everything that can lead to an incident. Basically a company's safety systems need to be so robust it can overcome the opportunity for human error. What you find with many large scale disasters there will be a lack of procedures and systems implemented from management level which result in this (I have seen quite a few of these in my safety training courses, one of which I am currently doing). Just watch a show such as Air Crash Investigations - many of those incidents were caused by problems with the systems which meant the people's actions slipped through the defences. It could be something as simple as an inadequate maintenance checklist that means something is overlooked and not picked up by the person doing the inspection.

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    And the blame game has just begun. Yesterday it was a war of words between the train company management and the local fire dept. No doubt this will continue for some time.

    And meanwhile the people of Lac-Mégantic continue to live this tragedy -- bad enough not knowing how it happened, but not knowing what happened to your friends and neighbours? I just can't imagine.
    The company management need to be really careful before blaming individuals. They could end up in massive doggy-do-do taking that stance, particularly if it is found the management are at fault.
    When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.

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    4 more bodies recovered at Lac-Mégantic blast site: police . 24 now confirmed dead #lacmegantic
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    Talitha Coumi Bégnoche and her two young daughters died in Lac-Mégantic. Read their story and others: http://tgam.ca/LacMegantic-memorial
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    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 9m
    Lac-Mégantic vigil cancelled, railroad chief heads home http://tgam.ca/DsnJ #quebec
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    Bells ring out in Lac-Mégantic as town marks one week of mourning http://bit.ly/12z0BGF

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    I believe they found another five more bodies bring the death total to 32 with about 30 still missing.

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    So incredibly tragic...
    Haunting the Princess of Pink since 20/07/11...

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    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 14m
    Derailed Quebec train had insufficient brake force: investigators http://bit.ly/12Sr8yR
    EDIT: Nice gesture by Sir Paul...

    The Globe and Mail ‏@globeandmail 10m
    From @GlobeQuebec: Paul McCartney offers free show tickets to Lac-Mégantic survivors http://bit.ly/12ToCZ8
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