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    Quote Originally Posted by iggie View Post
    hi,

    thanks for the concern. i'm fine ... i wanted to do some experimenting with my blog, so i just moved it. it's now back.
    Yeeehhhh, Iggie is back
    Hi! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pani View Post
    Yeeehhhh, Iggie is back
    Hi! Thanks!


    Thanks Pani.

    I was working on a behind the scenes series about what it takes to run the blog. Do you guys have any questions -- do you wonder how I create certain things, plan it, execute it? For real, I run websites and social media for companies so this is a professionally run blog, even though it's a fan blog.

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    Welcome back, Iggie - though you were in truth not really gone...

    A testament to the warmth and affection of the VM board that some of us were worried about you.

    Would love to read your behind the scenes series. Now it makes sense that you are a professional. Your writing flows so beautifully - all ingredients perfectly balanced.

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    Now that July is here it is time to review past programs in my book.
    For some reason I started with Valse Triste. There is a purity in their skating at that age and the choreo so perfectly suits them. My favourite in those early years is still Umbrellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iggie View Post
    I was working on a behind the scenes series about what it takes to run the blog. Do you guys have any questions -- do you wonder how I create certain things, plan it, execute it? For real, I run websites and social media for companies so this is a professionally run blog, even though it's a fan blog.
    Well... I don't have a lot of specific questions, I'm just really impressed by it because it looks like it takes soooo much work. I am curious how you never seem to miss anything - like you have every article about an event, every different version of a program on youtube - how do you scour the internet to make sure?

    Another thing I like about it is that you create a lot of content to blog about that is V&M related but not a re-posting of the latest news. Like you went really in depth researching Funny Face and past versions of Carmen (on and off ice), and then the montage maker interviews... so where do you get your ideas and do you try to time them to give us something to read during the off season/boring periods?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emdee View Post
    Now that July is here it is time to review past programs in my book.
    For some reason I started with Valse Triste. There is a purity in their skating at that age and the choreo so perfectly suits them.
    Yes, it's one of my most favorite programs to that music. I would love to see them re-skate it with the power they have today (not to say it wasn't lovely then).

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    I felt in love with TS after I saw Valse Triste in the night in my TV from SC. It was special moment. And I remember, how Tarasova talked about how she was impressed with them at that night.
    2008 was good year for me, because I enjoy a lot off programs in ice dance and my new favorites won silver. Sweet times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emdee View Post
    Now that July is here it is time to review past programs in my book.
    For some reason I started with Valse Triste. There is a purity in their skating at that age and the choreo so perfectly suits them. My favourite in those early years is still Umbrellas.
    One of myy favorite moment in their earlier progrms is in Umbrellas - the section where they are criss-crossing each other and Scott reaches out when they intersect. Something about that move combined with the music, that's what did it for me.

    Their talent was so overwhelmingly apparent even when they were younger. I came to know about them while watching canadians one year when they showed their junior worlds programs. I was still undergoing B&K withdrawal at the time!

    Hope everyone is having a nice relaxing summer!

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    haha

    i am in pr, but pr is extraordinarily vast. the world's largest pr firm is edelman. it has 67 offices with almost 5000 employees ... it's all about specialties. i went to pr school, our teaching was broken down like:

    - media relations
    - crisis management
    - social and digital media
    - corporate social responsibility and sustainability
    - event planning and management
    - strategic communications
    - change management and communication
    - research for public relations
    - design for public relations

    when we were tested, we had to achieve everything. we hosted events, and we actually had to do them, execute, etc. our biggest problem: one person spelled a guest's name wrong on the guest card. that was huge and we barely passed because of that mistake alone. we took real world crisis stories and figured out how we would do crisis management and there is really is only one answer -- if you got, you passed. if you didn't, you could redo it. at the end, you got a job.

    i was behind the scenes, helping to do this event which is described here, in this article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/...ticle12875978/
    i know exactly why the journalist wrote this story and i saw it being created.

    lol

    i do marketing, but i once did high fashion marketing for some of the most important designers in canada. it's absolutely extraordinary and powerful. i don't do this, knocking on your door, asking you to buy a product we both know you don't need. and sometimes, the work we do doesn't generate obvious profit, immediately, but we're just building a brand. and sometimes, you'll know the power of hiring us when something goes wrong and we have to fix it and restore it to its original glory. companies need our help to change things, because change is hard. then if i'm doing marketing, i'll outsource media relations to specialists and event management to specialists. i'll set up photo shoot ideas and work with specialists to execute it. etc. etc.

    it's a fascinating profession and it's a great way to create a balance with your life and your interests and your family and the people you love. i could create my own firm. be a director somewhere. a coordinator elsewhere. volunteer my skills. supervise interns. lol. it's interesting. but a part of my job is to run website and social media sites for companies. lol. you guys are lucky that i just have to do it myself because there's no business model where the blog makes sense. one current challenge in pr is to measure the importance of social media. you invest a lot into it, and you'd never waste your resources, but how do you show that it gives you a return? do you look at the overall visitors? do you look at the likes? what is success? in my last job, i ran a facebook site that had 80 likes. but 80 likes sounds low. 1000 likes sounds impressive. so if i only get to 300 likes, did i fail? how does 1000 likes compare with facebook fan pages that have 3 million? compulsorydances ... it never generates many comments on the blog itself. it has very little subscribers. it has a great view count overall, but other blogs get millions per day. so a ceo would say "misha, you can't prove to me that this blog is a good investment". and if they were to act based on the bottom line, they'd kill the blog and assign me elsewhere, or i wouldn't be able to do an amazing job at what it takes to grow it. that's the challenge the people in charge of social media face ...

    but i have a sense of humour. it's all up to me. and i can come here or on twitter, to read comments about people talking about my blog. nothing needs to be said on my blog to feel like it's worth it.
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    here's the series ... http://compulsorydances.blogspot.ca/...roduction.html

    i call myself a communications specialist because i like to communicate. "communicate" is different than "writing". one conveys the actual message the perfect way. the other, just writes and if anyone can read it, doesn't really matter. someone else could be a communications strategist or a communications coordinator.

    cherub

    I am curious how you never seem to miss anything - like you have every article about an event, every different version of a program on youtube - how do you scour the internet to make sure?


    http://compulsorydances.blogspot.ca/...formation.html

    Another thing I like about it is that you create a lot of content to blog about that is V&M related but not a re-posting of the latest news. Like you went really in depth researching Funny Face and past versions of Carmen (on and off ice), and then the montage maker interviews... so where do you get your ideas and do you try to time them to give us something to read during the off season/boring periods?


    okay. well, I have two degrees in English literature. I truly know how to read English, throughout history. There was one point where this English was as normal to me as this English and this English and I don't even feel lazy enjoying this English ... if they make a movie about it, fine. I'll watch it and the cartoon ... I know that a lot goes into reading, comprehension and understanding. I knew that if I saw "Funny Face" then their fd would make more sense. If you never knew the movie, it'd hard to get the dance. If you saw the actual scenes that they worked with, then it's be amazing.

    But it takes me a lot of time to do it. And it's a lot of work, so I personally have to enjoy it. And there are people behind the montages, who would love to explain how it works for them. Ditto for photos. Let's chat with them in a focused way and a systematic way. Let's ask them all the same questions and you'll learn so much no matter what the answer. Even the differences tell you something.
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    O, thank you, Iggie! You give so many interesting information to us. Not just about FS and VM. Yjank you again

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    my writing style depends. but when i write for myself and i personally want to feel proud, this my standard:

    [certain artists do] not distort what's real. the subjects ... are quite identifiable. rather, the artist pushes through aspects of the real to make the viewer take a second look at familiar topics.
    - michael semak, photographer

    instead of telling us about an idea or emotion, literature confronts us with something that may spark that same idea or emotion in ourselves. it's an experience.
    - steven lynn, literary critic

    a poet, somewhat. a writer, to a degree. a lover of hummus and vanilla black tea, always. nina simone and ella's voices often echo through my room as my pencil navigates through metadiscourses and carets to achieve something readable, something beautiful.
    - 2009-ish writing bio

    but saying exactly what needs to be said so that it gets the point across is brilliant, no matter what. i just know how to edit and adjust for style and structure. editing is not just about grammar. the blog also requires that i be a managing editor, a proofreader, a quality assurance kind of editor, a fact checker + more. here's the canadian professional editor's association definition of what an editor can do: http://www.editors.ca/hire/definitions.html

    and i am a professionally trained editor. i was trained in every single thing there + more
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    Event ticket packages for the 2014 Canadian Tire National Figure Skating Championships will go on sale Friday, October 4, 2013. Prices and information on how to buy will be available closer to that date.
    From SC facebook page.
    https://www.facebook.com/skatecanada?hc_location=stream
    I know some of you guys want to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iggie View Post
    haha

    i am in pr, but pr is extraordinarily vast. the world's largest pr firm is edelman. it has 67 offices with almost 5000 employees ... it's all about specialties. i went to pr school, our teaching was broken down like:

    - media relations
    - crisis management
    - social and digital media
    - corporate social responsibility and sustainability
    - event planning and management
    - strategic communications
    - change management and communication
    - research for public relations
    - design for public relations

    when we were tested, we had to achieve everything. we hosted events, and we actually had to do them, execute, etc. our biggest problem: one person spelled a guest's name wrong on the guest card. that was huge and we barely passed because of that mistake alone. we took real world crisis stories and figured out how we would do crisis management and there is really is only one answer -- if you got, you passed. if you didn't, you could redo it. at the end, you got a job.

    i was behind the scenes, helping to do this event which is described here, in this article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/...ticle12875978/
    i know exactly why the journalist wrote this story and i saw it being created.

    lol

    i do marketing, but i once did high fashion marketing for some of the most important designers in canada. it's absolutely extraordinary and powerful. i don't do this, knocking on your door, asking you to buy a product we both know you don't need. and sometimes, the work we do doesn't generate obvious profit, immediately, but we're just building a brand. and sometimes, you'll know the power of hiring us when something goes wrong and we have to fix it and restore it to its original glory. companies need our help to change things, because change is hard. then if i'm doing marketing, i'll outsource media relations to specialists and event management to specialists. i'll set up photo shoot ideas and work with specialists to execute it. etc. etc.

    it's a fascinating profession and it's a great way to create a balance with your life and your interests and your family and the people you love. i could create my own firm. be a director somewhere. a coordinator elsewhere. volunteer my skills. supervise interns. lol. it's interesting. but a part of my job is to run website and social media sites for companies. lol. you guys are lucky that i just have to do it myself because there's no business model where the blog makes sense. one current challenge in pr is to measure the importance of social media. you invest a lot into it, and you'd never waste your resources, but how do you show that it gives you a return? do you look at the overall visitors? do you look at the likes? what is success? in my last job, i ran a facebook site that had 80 likes. but 80 likes sounds low. 1000 likes sounds impressive. so if i only get to 300 likes, did i fail? how does 1000 likes compare with facebook fan pages that have 3 million? compulsorydances ... it never generates many comments on the blog itself. it has very little subscribers. it has a great view count overall, but other blogs get millions per day. so a ceo would say "misha, you can't prove to me that this blog is a good investment". and if they were to act based on the bottom line, they'd kill the blog and assign me elsewhere, or i wouldn't be able to do an amazing job at what it takes to grow it. that's the challenge the people in charge of social media face ...

    but i have a sense of humour. it's all up to me. and i can come here or on twitter, to read comments about people talking about my blog. nothing needs to be said on my blog to feel like it's worth it.
    I'm fascinated by what you do, Iggie. I could see very clearly the importance of your work, in your competence to explain it became very evident. This really piqued my interest!

    I'm a new fan, so I have not had the opportunity to thank you, but here are my thanks for all your dedication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pani View Post
    From SC facebook page.
    https://www.facebook.com/skatecanada?hc_location=stream
    I know some of you guys want to go.
    Thanks Pani.
    I will definitely go for Nats.

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    I'm a long time follower of these boards but a first-time poster.... Are any of you planning on attending Skate Canada this year? I am really looking forward to seeing all the skaters, but especially V & M! It will be my first live skating event apart from Stars on Ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lety View Post
    I'm fascinated by what you do, Iggie. I could see very clearly the importance of your work, in your competence to explain it became very evident. This really piqued my interest!

    I'm a new fan, so I have not had the opportunity to thank you, but here are my thanks for all your dedication.
    lol

    it's fun, but it's fierce -- but you need to be pure zen, ambition and supple. it's never secure, but if you wanted a job where you were guaranteed to do the exact same thing, the exact same way, in the very same place for 20 years -- and you'd always have your job and move up no matter who badly you did you job or how ordinary you performed -- this isn't your industry. success in this field depends on a lot and you have to stay focused on what you ultimately want. it's not just about a job and paycheck. having the life you want, loving what you do, and being really proud of the work you do and who you do it for is the whole point. you are your own brand even if you work with other brands for other brands. you have to maintain relationships. it's a great career for innovators, artists, creators, entrepreneurs, do-er, achievers, strategic thinkers, tacticians, passionate people, goal-oriented peeps ... and everyone else.

    you know apple. they're an incredible brand right? but steve jobs didn't create the brand necessarily. apple has a pr firm. the pr firm would have created this commerical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SswMzUWOiJg

    there's a pr team behind this too, several actually: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFdFLdh8new
    it's a series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FSSoBabN3M

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    Thanks iggie, I read the series and it's really impressive how much work goes into it. Very interesting how the 14 followers absolutely does not tell the tale. I never sign up to follow blogs, and I don't really comment on them either (because that would be another place I'd have to follow... I prefer to post at FSU and just lurk other places; I'm sure many are the same). The importance of this blog may not be quantifiable in numbers but like you said, if Tessa and Scott are using it as a resource, that's everything. And maybe in that way it's good that there aren't a lot of comments? Even positive ones may start with phrases like "I know the haters don't like Carmen, but..." and other things that they probably don't need to see when they're just trying to look up information about themselves.

    Actually, I think of your blog as basically the Tessa and Scott wiki (especially for the last couple of seasons). A lot of TV shows have their own wiki where members contribute all possible information about the show... and that's basically what your site is, except it's all generated by YOU, which is pretty amazing.

    I'm still working on that thing for you I'm the type who gets something 95% done and then doesn't want to finish it...

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    oh cool. here's steve jobs talking about "think different" campaign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcneYcl23MU
    (a pr team would have helped him a bit. he's part of his own pr team in a way which makes it a pleasure. some ceo's need you to choreograph every single thing)

    here's a tribute to him when he died: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGoBer6grTw
    another tribute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuLw9_JEAsw

    historical video of steve jobs chatting about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zut2NLMVL_k
    insight into his company: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f60dheI4ARg

    i have a sense of humour ... this video cracks me up. the more you know about windows, apple, pc, bill, steve, and even literary history + who was the best cold war scientist, the funnier it becomes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0

    i personally think the history behind the file extension .jpg is hiliarious! and it completely relates to this.

    with a man like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJm0P8xpDzA
    and creates products like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QztwBzcVaw
    and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKPEK9BSIhA
    and treats privacy like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGLxjppFqeA
    and this is him talking about him being 12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTf0LmDqKI

    you think a ceo wouldn't even need a pr firm, but apple does. and still, they give their pr to one firm right now -- and basically everyone in silicon valley uses her for pr.

    i don't own an apple computer, but everyone i know does. my friends got a job in an apple store and they were crying for happiness. so it makes me

    pr when it's done well makes everyone in the industry proud. those campaigns become case studies. when it fails, we laugh and those campaigns become case studies. when you're extraordinary, you get awards. skate canada's pr team ... interesting, but they are award-worthy. http://discovery.iabc.com/phrase.php...e=skate+canada

    iabc - international association of business communicators (you can do pr that's purely communications in a business setting ... this is your association).
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    Iggie, could you be TS PR-manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotation View Post
    I'm a long time follower of these boards but a first-time poster.... Are any of you planning on attending Skate Canada this year? I am really looking forward to seeing all the skaters, but especially V & M! It will be my first live skating event apart from Stars on Ice.
    Lucky you. It's quite an experience watching live and gives a totally different perspective..........from the speed and coverage to the colours of the costuming which at times appears different on TV.

    Welcome to this thread and I hope you enjoy the experience of live competition.
    Addicted to FSU

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