But what about Surya?
Stephane Lambiel (2006)
Paul Wylie (1992)
Elizabeth Manley (1988)
Kitty & Peter Carruthers (1984)
Dan Zhang & Hao Zhang (2006)
Qing Pang & Jian Tong (2010)
Isabelle & Paul Duschenay (1992)
Tanith Belbin & Benjamin Agosto (2006)
But what about Surya?
That a large and inaccurate generalization. For starters, Liz Manley's silver Olympic medal is an example. Then, Cupcake was thrilled to earn silver to Kwan in 2003. And Akiko Suzuki was beyond happy about her podium placement.
Speaking about happy silvers for men, don't forget Ten from this year.
It's not just figure skaters, either. It's anyone on a podium.
To each his own, I guess. Nancy Kerrigan's behavior? I thought it was lousy. Even teenagers are old enough to behave well. Emotions are entirely understandable, but yes, one can feign a positive appearance for a few minutes. It's good sportsmanship. Tears, anger and disappointment can be controlled. Beauty pageant contestants do it all the time. I have no problem with backstage disappointment.
When I see an obviously disappointed silver/bronze medalist on the podium, I end up watching them more than the winner. So for me, it does take away from the winner's big moment.
"I hit him with my shoes... if he had given me the medal like I told him to, I wouldn't have had to hit him!" -- 8-year-old Rhoda Penmark in "The Bad Seed"
I think a lot of times skaters try, but they can't completely be in control. Kwan wasn't bawling or crying on the podium and put on a brave face, smiled, and sang the national anthem. However, you could tell her eyes were puffy from crying.
BTW, I may be a jerk but I loved the Nancy comment. It was stupid of her to say it when the cameras were there, but she was talking amongst her peers (Lu Chen) and other people near the backstage. She probably didn't realize the camera was filming, so she probably thought it was a semi-private setting. I may be projecting here, but I'm sure Lu Chen may have appreciated the joke because she too was waiting for like 30 minutes and was told the wrong thing about Baiul holding up the ceremony because she was putting on make-up. Seriously, if someone told you that, you'd be a little crabby too.
Nancy was upset since she knows she was robbed of gold. Even people who arent fans of Nancy mostly all admit this. The delay and Baiul's histronics just rubbed salt in the wounds and made it even worse. To do that to her after all she had been through was a crime by the judges.
Please Nancy was just acting like a spoiled princess. Oksana had none of the advantages Kerrigan grew up with mainly having a family and the best training facilities. Even if she did get robbed she came off badly. Then of course the Disney parade fiasco where she was caught bitching about how corny it was.
Evidence, please? I didn't watch the competition, but didn't care much for how either skater was packaged. Oksana the orphan waif, Nancy the working class girl made glamorous.Originally Posted by orientalplane
When the competition is discussed on this board, my impression is that it is 50-50 either way.
All things considered I would have Chen or even Sato win the free - don't know how that would affect the podium as they both had issues in the short.
Probably something like:
I am one of those who is not a Kerrigan fan. But to say that her skating that night was not better than Baiul is wrong IMO. Sure Oksana had personality and speed but that shouldn't win gold medals when another skater has a near flawless skate. It seems the judges were sick of the Nancy/Tonya debacle and were enchanted with Baiul. So all of sudden Kerrigan who was always a judges favorite, all of sudden wasn't.
Also when Chen and (especially) Sato underperformed in the SP, it left the door more open for Baiul to win over Kerrigan. Sato didn't get to skate in the final flight so was not going to beat Baiul unless she melted down , and Chen was now just viewed as a Bronze medal contender with Bonaly.
Also what difference should it make how Baiul or Kerrigan were packaged. I'm not a fan of either one personally, but again it has no bearings on their performances.
I agree. Not to make such a bold, absolute statement, but the only people who think Kerrigan should not have beaten Baiul in the LP (even if they think Chen and Sato were superior) are ones who either just love Baiul no matter what she did or are really happy Kerrigan is not an Olympic gold medalist for a bunch of reasons.
I'm far from being a Kerrigan fan (even if I do perceive that FSU has a bias against her to the point where she's underrated) and I prefer Baiul most of the time, but that night, Baiul was majorly gifted for the crap she put out. Now, had her SP been her LP...that would've been different as that SP showcased her skills much better.
I do agree with what many of you are saying. The judges were sick of the whole Harding-Kerrigan hype that they had been ringing in Lillehammer for 2 weeks solid (well probably more) by then. In that sense Harding's bodygaurds's friends nephew clubbing Kerrigan probably did cost her the Olympic Gold, despite her coming back from it and skating brilliantly. By that point Kerrigan winning would have been the Cinderella dream story and dream ending that American producers would have probably made movies about for years, and the thought of that to many became nauseating so some decided to just puncture that balloon if they could.
They also were running out of viable alternatives to win at that point. Chen and Sato were no longer factors for the gold after the short program. No way on earth they were ever going to see Bonaly as an Olympic Gold medalist. Baiul was really in the right place at the right time. I wouldnt say that about her 93 World title which was very impressive considering who she was at the time, was won over a very strong event of skating even with Kerrigan's meltdown, and which was won with a more solid performance than her 94 Olympics one.
Last edited by judgejudy27; 07-19-2013 at 03:58 PM.