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    Most of the interview didn't bother me... until the part where she said she didn't know if using the N-word was inappropriate. That kind of sealed the deal for me, unfortunately, but I've never been a huge fan of hers. I think her food is disgusting.

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    The comments on that huffington post article are just infuriating.

    This lady has said nothing that has not been said by all people regardless of their race. The N word is a descriptive word not a derogatory one.
    WalMart probably just found a cheaper supplier for their junk....Paula Wong from Cambodia
    BREAKING NEWS , ATLANAT GA; Family just taken into custody because it was found out there Grandfather used the N-word in 1937. They will get when found guilty 25 yrs to life ! Othe White families are being hunted down as we speak. All Whites will be found !
    Have their always been this many people on the internet talking about how Whites (capitalized) are oppressed or is it a new thing? I swear I didn't notice it happening quite so often until a few years ago. Or did it coincide with Obama's election or re-election?... (I realize only one of the above is like but there are, of course, more on the article if you have the stomach to go look.)

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    I remember when a friend of mine sent me a video from a US morning TV show where Barbara Walters was reading something out of a book they were discussing and a a black co-host got very upset about about "the way she said the N-word" and how it is not okay for white people to even say that word.
    The other co-host was Whoopi Goldberg and she also had something to say about that, but since the audience did not start laughing to this ludicrous hypocrisy - i turned the video off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha'sSpins View Post
    You seem to keep trying to convince me that Paula Deen is this evil, wicked person and I'm just not buying it.
    I'm not trying to convince you of anything and never called her an evil, wicked woman. I just don't like hyperbole, pseudo-sociology, and revisionist history.
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    I don't see where milanessa tried to convince anyone that Paula Deen was an evil, wicked woman. Most of her post was just pointing out that your statistic on lynchings was totally, totally off by a very large amount.

    And while I certainly agree with you that Deen's upbringing is what would have led her to say such a word in the distant past, the allegations are not in the distant past, and I don't think that her apparently inability to decide whether or not the n-word is inappropriate is okay given that we are no longer in the distant past. Do I think that makes her evil? No, but I think it doesn't speak very highly of her.

    But like I said, I was never buying her products anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Deen needs to do what Anthony Weiner did. Go away for a while and then try again in a couple of years.
    I think she just needs to go away. She will look like a bigger clueless fool than Weiner if she tries to come back.
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    Caesars Entertainment and WALMART have dropped her. I think QVC will follow too. But Dean did put QVC in an awkward position when she publicly stated on the TODAY that QVC has not dropped her [yet].

    She's doing more harm to her brand than good by going on TV. She never really said sorry about anything but blamed other people, ie someone evil out there is trying to destroy what she had worked hard for, .... and then she ended her interview with the idiotic "I is what I is ..". Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andora View Post
    I'm interested in Topaz's thoughts as well, but does it matter if Topaz knows people with Ph.D.'s or J.D.'s who use it or not? People tend not to use swear words in polite/general company. Wouldn't that apply here?
    Andora, for the purposes of this thread, any black person topaz (or any other African-American person here) knows who has a Rice-like or Booker-like public persona will do.

    On the other hand, I don't think using the "'N' word" is quite like using swear words. I know plenty of people with advanced degrees who use swear words in private conversations, but I can't think of a time I have ever heard any of them -- black or otherwise -- use that word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    Caesars Entertainment and WALMART have dropped her.
    She's too tacky for the folks in Las Vegas and Arkansas now? Even Tonya Harding didn't fall that far.

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    There's a historical connotation with the word, and it was used to subjugate, demean, and remind black people where they stood in society by white people. I don't like that some black people use it with one another and don't have the respect or understanding of the full power of the word. I also am not sure how effective it is to "take back" the word because it doesn't erase the historical racism associated with it. However, because there's such a historical difference between black people and white people using it, I think that explains why white people using the N-word is perceived as worse than when black people use it amongst themselves.

    Anyway, all this focus on her use of the N-word has made people forget what the initial reactions were when her passages of her deposition came out. It was about a lot more than her use of the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    True, but do you actually think they do? It seems inconceivable to me.

    IIRC, you are African-American, topaz, so I'm particularly interested in your perspective on this. Do you know of any black people with Ph.D.'s or J.D.'s who use the word in private?
    Actually yes I do. They usually say the way as a "jest" or to emphasize the crazy antics or actions of people of my race. I personally do not like to use the word "Ni***" however I have used the work Negro. I use that word when I am referring to someone of my own race acting silly, or stupid or embarrassing themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Deen needs to do what Anthony Weiner did. Go away for a while and then try again in a couple of years.
    Frankly, I think this will die out in a few months-especially when the next big scandal comes along.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitneyskates View Post
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3505258.html
    Walmart has just dropped her. I don't know what her people thought they were doing by letting her do this interview because it seems to have just made things worse.
    Home Depot and Caesars Casino dropped her as well. Her main comforts, apart from her friends and family, is probably that she still has a lot of fans on her side-and a lot of money.

    Quote Originally Posted by milanessa View Post
    I'm not trying to convince you of anything and never called her an evil, wicked woman. I just don't like hyperbole, pseudo-sociology, and revisionist history.
    You're not flat out calling Deen evil or wicked but that's what I'm getting from your posts. If you are referring to me in that last part of your post, I'm not trying to 'revise' history nor am I using hyperbole,or pseudo-sociology. I'm stating my opinions just as you were. Sorry if it's too much for you and you finally had to resort to insulting me. I suggest you ignore my remarks from now on. I'll do the same for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by VIETgrlTerifa View Post
    There's a historical connotation with the word, and it was used to subjugate, demean, and remind black people where they stood in society by white people. I don't like that some black people use it with one another and don't have the respect or understanding of the full power of the word. I also am not sure how effective it is to "take back" the word because it doesn't erase the historical racism associated with it. However, because there's such a historical difference between black people and white people using it, I think that explains why white people using the N-word is perceived as worse than when black people use it amongst themselves.

    Anyway, all this focus on her use of the N-word has made people forget what the initial reactions were when her passages of her deposition came out. It was about a lot more than her use of the word.
    This is true. But it's the 'n' word that the media and everyone else seem to have latched on to. She's not doing herself any favors either by appearing on tv-and saying 'I is what I is'.

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    are you paraphrasing or did she literally say "i is what i is"
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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    are you paraphrasing or did she literally say "i is what i is"
    She literally said "I is what I is" (30 second mark) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOVb1sgjTSo

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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    are you paraphrasing or did she literally say "i is what i is"
    Literally.

    Anyway, Deen doesn't get it; the use of the N word is just one among many complaints of racial discrimination and a hostile workplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    Literally.

    Anyway, Deen doesn't get it; the use of the N word is just one among many complaints of racial discrimination and a hostile workplace.
    eek!

    so far the dialogue over her choice of words is overshadowing all of the other offenses. some of them are common in her industry so i hope exposing them makes other owners/managers think twice.
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    Oh gosh, that video was hard to watch. Speaking of hyperbole:

    "Please pick up that stone and throw it so hard at my head that it kills me."

    I mean, really?

    I agree with whomever said that she should have just come out at the beginning and said a short, honest apology and then left it at that.

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    She's really not making herself sympathetic. I sort of feel sorry for her because there's obviously a cognitive dissonance going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiruwater View Post
    I agree with whomever said that she should have just come out at the beginning and said a short, honest apology and then left it at that.
    i dont know if she has an inept PR team or just doesnt listen. if anyone advised her not to settle out of court they are crazy.
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    Has anyone posted here the actual court documents yet?I read those today,it's about SO much more than the N word.If what the documents said is true,which,I believe it probably is.She is guilty primarily of condoning horrible,racist behavior.

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