Ito in 92 she looked very well worn out by the time the Olympics came around, with all the pressure. A fall in the SP was still much worse pre COP than nowadays and made it harder to win unless unless you had alot of oridinal flipping. After the SP Yamaguchi just needed to skate even halfway decent to win since her two main competitors fell.
IMO, if she'd had the political clout to go with her jumps, she would have medalled in Albertville, won Worlds in 1993 and 1994, and possibly won in Lillehammer. As she neared the end of her career, she had difficulty in rotating the jumps, but when she was younger her jumps were beauties too, especially her double axel and triple loop.
Chen was a wonderful skater who, like Midori Ito, never won as many medals as her performances merited.
Last edited by orientalplane; 06-23-2013 at 12:49 AM.
I agree her jumps from 91-96 were gorgeous, before she had problems rotating her jumps, when she got older.
That being said I think she has an impressive medal count- 4 world medals-including one gold and 2 Olympic medals.
Last edited by Lnt175; 06-23-2013 at 01:43 AM.
If Ice Dance is included
Davis/White had a disastrous OD at the Cup of Russia in 2008, where they placed 8th.
They finished 2nd in the FD and finished 3rd overall
I'm going to twizzle into a triple axel and spiral out of it.
I would have had Bonaly or Chen winning the 93 Worlds, with the other second, and Baiul bronze.
At the 94 Olympics Kerrigan deserved gold, Chen silver, and Sato bronze.
At the 94 Worlds Chen did not skate so could not win.
At the 92 Worlds Chen deserved silver.
So I agree she was underplaced often but the only events she didnt win she deserved to win were the 96 Worlds and maybe (but maybe not because of Bonaly) 93 Worlds. She also did not deserve her Olympic bronze in 1998 so she was sometimes overmarked too.
Last edited by orientalplane; 06-25-2013 at 04:00 PM.
I'm sorry but I remember the rules differently. You are right Chen's easy jumb combo hurt her base mark, but she didn't have any "omissions". And omission is when you don't even try to do an element. Singling the double axel is not an omission, it's a 0.4 deduction for having less than required revolutions. Falling on an element was also a 0.4 deduction. Same goes for singling the lutz.
And I don't know if Chen was unfairly placed too low at the 1997 Worlds (I don't remember the competition well enough), but I definitely think that she should NOT have gotten that Bronze Medal in Nagano. Most her her jumps were a quarter or half of revolution short (and her last toe even more than that :runs and should have lowered her first mark more than enough so that Slutskaya and Butyrskaya should have beaten her in the LP, even with Chen's higher presentation marks.
haven' seen this result, sorry if it's been mentioned before:
miki ando, worlds 2010: 11th in short, 3rd in fs, overall4th; if you ask me: robbed the bronze.
Phaneuf was totally robbed of the bronze at those Worlds. Such a shame as I knew even then she was never going to get another shot. The perfect storm of headcase Phaneuf skating perfectly with 7 triples and such a poor event was never going to happen again.