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    Quote Originally Posted by rhumba View Post
    Agree. In the last few years, USFS never gave SA to the team that already got one GP. H/D did not compete at LP, no score to compare with others. Last year, C/B won LP, they did not get the SA as their 2nd GP. They gave it to C/M, and I recalled the same with the year before.
    Hubbell/Donohue did skate their FD at Skate Detroit and scored 83.01. That's a higher FD score than any of the senior teams got at Lake Placid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euterpe View Post
    Hubbell/Donohue did skate their FD at Skate Detroit and scored 83.01. That's a higher FD score than any of the senior teams got at Lake Placid.
    That's very nice score. However, it's different judge panel and not sure if the USFS committtee was there. For the ice dance international assignments, JGP and GP, they took the results from LP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centerpt1 View Post
    Re A/E's Free -I just wonder about the wisdom of doing an Indian/Bollywood program before Davis and White retire. It looks like it needs a bit of work and polish still-and it begs comparison with D/W.

    I absolutely loved their SD though.

    I do hope A/E get a second GP.
    Have you seen any videos of their FD floating around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhumba View Post
    That's very nice score. However, it's different judge panel and not sure if the USFS committtee was there. For the ice dance international assignments, JGP and GP, they took the results from LP.
    From the 7/29/13 icenetwork.com article: "The 2012 U.S. bronze medalists presented a short dance of quickstep and foxtrot rhythms, and a free dance to violinist Lucia Micarelli's "Bohemian Rhapsody in Nocturne" at Skate Detroit. The goal wasn't to notch a high score but to prove program readiness before a judging panel and U.S. Figure Skating officials."

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    Quote Originally Posted by blancanieves View Post
    From the 7/29/13 icenetwork.com article: "The 2012 U.S. bronze medalists presented a short dance of quickstep and foxtrot rhythms, and a free dance to violinist Lucia Micarelli's "Bohemian Rhapsody in Nocturne" at Skate Detroit. The goal wasn't to notch a high score but to prove program readiness before a judging panel and U.S. Figure Skating officials."
    Nobody said they're not ready, H/D gave interview about hoping for Nebelhorn, did not mention SA. We are discussing about SA assignment.They're debating who would get SA, base on LP result. Historically, the USFS international committee comes to LP and makes decision on JGP and SA assignment after LP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhumba View Post
    Nobody said they're not ready, H/D gave interview about hoping for Nebelhorn, did not mention SA. We are discussing about SA assignment.They're debating who would get SA, base on LP result. Historically, the USFS international committee comes to LP and makes decision on JGP and SA assignment after LP.
    Sorry, I was just providing an answer to this: "and not sure if the USFS committtee was there."

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    The truth is that the international committee can probably do whatever it wants to do. The question is WHEN will the remaining SA assignments for all disciplines be announced and posted?

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    How many spots are open and what are the possible scenarios for assignments?

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    There is 1 TBA in dance for Skate America.

    1 GP already: Hubbell/Donohue (Skate Canada), Aldridge/Eaton (China)
    0 GP: Lynn & Logan, Cannuscio/McManus - both are assigned to the Senior B in Salt Lake (with Davis/White and the Shibutanis).
    Nebelhorn (1 dance spot) and Finlandia (1-2 spots) are the other Senior B events for dance that take place before the start of the GP. Dance teams have been sent to Ice Challenge in Graz, Austria in November in past years.

    Chock/Bates are likely to get a Sr. B to prepare for the GP.
    Alissandra Aronow & Collin Brubaker are the only other Senior dance team listed in the ISP.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 08-05-2013 at 04:25 PM.
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    Thanks Sylvia. So the only GP open for a US dance team is SA? Or am i reading incorrectly.

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    Looking at it with that information:

    Lynn and Logan had remained in the top 24 Season's Best through Worlds and with their showing at LP should be highly considered for SA
    Hubbell/Donahue mentioned something about Nebelhorn in an interview, so perhaps they already know that will be their Senior B assignment
    That would mean Chock/Bates could be given Finlandia and the second spot given to Aldridge/Eaton
    Ice Challenge is listed on the USFS calendar and could complete the pool assignments with Cannuscio/McManus and Aronow/Brubaker

    I could also see where USFS would assign Hubbell/Donahue to Finlandia instead to save on coaching costs since Krylova and Carmalengo have both H/D and A/E.

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    and while the US has only 1 dance spot to assign on the GP (SA), there are still 3more unassigned spots, TEB, CoR and CoC.

    http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2013/gpsdance.htm
    It's possible, since Lynn & Logan are in the 24 season's best, that they might get one of the other 2 spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI View Post
    and while the US has only 1 dance spot to assign on the GP (SA), there are still 3more unassigned spots, TEB, CoR and CoC.

    http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2013/gpsdance.htm
    It's possible, since Lynn & Logan are in the 24 season's best, that they might get one of the other 2 spots.
    I don't believe they're currently on the season's best list.
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    Is that for last year?

    17th best FD
    http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/...13/sbtsdfd.htm

    26th total though :

    http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/...13/sbtsdto.htm

    Looks like Graz didn't count, only 2012 SA.

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    Lynn & Logan are #26 on the 2012-13 ISU SB total scores list (link posted above) - are they currently among the top 5 on the dance alternates list? (paging kwanfan1818! )
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    No, they are not on the current Season's Best (top 24) list; sorry I wasn't clearer. I stated that they "had remained on the Season's Best list through Worlds" but I should have added that they lost their standing after the World Team Trophy. I just meant that WTT isn't held every year and K/G-S would have received one under the rules had it been the alternate season. I do hope, though, that USFS doesn't use the reasoning that since they are 26th, they might get one anyway because, unless I am mistaken, the rules allow for out-of-order selection.

    ETA-Where is there an alternates list?
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    There is no official alternates list. Here's the link to the GP Assignments thread - status of dance teams with 1 or 0 GP assignments in early June: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...=1#post3934072
    Reed/Reed were added to NHK Trophy on July 19th - their 2nd GP: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...=1#post3960040
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    Thanks, Sylvia. Initially, I was confused by the changes in the standings because I didn't realize that the World Team Trophy would count as it did and was surprised K/G-S wasn't on the original GP assignment list. IIRC, the Reeds moved up from a much lower spot after WTT and received their first GP according to the rules regarding SB. They were then able to maximize by getting their second, as you mentioned, through a host pick from their own country.

    So, it looks like out of the top 28 SB teams, K/G-S is the only one without a GP. The problem for them is that there really is no chance they would be given a host pick by France, Russia or China. Why would they when those federations would want to use the spots for one of their own? I would like to see USFS give K/G-S support and not leave it to the remote possibility they could be an alternate selection, but as I said before, the international committee can do whatever it chooses. I just wish it would decide sometime soon!
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    I know this isn't a question relating only to US Ice Dance News, but I figure someone here could answer the question:

    What list is IceNetwork going off of in their new article on skater rankings? What they are using doesn't seem to match any of the rankings (World, Season World or SB) I see on the ISU site. Am I missing something? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conga View Post
    What list is IceNetwork going off of in their new article on skater rankings?
    They have their own rankings system: http://web.icenetwork.com/rankings/ (not sure if anyone really pays attention to it, though! )
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