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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post

    The only one that comes out different from the map for me is Caramel. I say Carmel even though I am an East Coaster. I got it from my mother, who is Scottish.
    It's "carmel" in eastern Mass. People say "car-a-mel" down here in this part of NY.
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    If you pronounce 'merry' differently... how do you pronounce it? I pronounce all three the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarrAarghHrumph View Post
    It's "carmel" in eastern Mass. People say "car-a-mel" down here in this part of NY.
    Having grown up in Texas (and developing language there) but with New York/New Jersey parents, I have weird linguistic patterns (a professor in college who could place Texans to the county was unable to determine where I was from, after living there 16 years, because I speak so strangely- though generally described as 'accent free'- she got 42 out of 45 students right.).

    I say care-a-mel if I'm talking about the candy, but I say car-mel-o if talking about that specific Cadburry candy bar. My husband (native Texan) says "Care-melo, and Care-a-mel" he thinks it is bizarre I don't say both the same way...

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    People say "cray-yawn?"

    You guys are weird. And I go through Pee-CAHN pie arguments with my MA relatives every Thanksgiving. And of course I put sear-up on my pancakes; I seem to be from the heart of the sear-up belt.

    Quote Originally Posted by michiruwater View Post
    If you pronounce 'merry' differently... how do you pronounce it? I pronounce all three the same.
    Mary, merry and marry are different, of course.

    Mary rhymes with hairy. Marry rhymes with Harry. Merry rhymes with ferry, berry and Terry.

    And it's a hoagie.
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    That is funny - I generally say Carmel but if I am talking about Cadbury Caramello bars, I say Car-a-mello.

    If Mary and Marry sound different, I think that Mary sounds like Mare-y while Marry sounds like Ma-Ry. And Merry is Mehr-Ry. If that makes any sense at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    Mary rhymes with hairy. Marry rhymes with Harry. Merry rhymes with ferry, berry and Terry.
    Which is to say, all of these words rhyme with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    Which is to say, all of these words rhyme with each other.
    I used to know the linguistic marks, but they're in the story I think. Mary is mair-ee. Marry is marre -- ee. Merry is Mehr -- ee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    Mary, merry and marry are different, of course.

    Mary rhymes with hairy. Marry rhymes with Harry. Merry rhymes with ferry, berry and Terry.
    That clarifies nothing, as all of those sound the same to people who say Mary, merry, and marry the same way.

    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    And it's a hoagie.
    A hoagie is a type of sub, not a generic sub .

    Don't we have this discussion every summer? Where's the map for jimmies, sprinkles and whatever else those things are called? And the map for different types of ice cream cones? And (this one is always good for starting some real ) the map for people who look at greasy and say "greesee" versus those who say "greezee."

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    I was going to say, all of those words sound exactly the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    I used to know the linguistic marks, but they're in the story I think. Mary is mair-ee. Marry is marre -- ee. Merry is Mehr -- ee.
    Right. And they all sound the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiruwater View Post
    I was going to say, all of those words sound exactly the same
    That's just impossible. I spent thirty years trying to lose the awful parts of my Philly accent. Come to find out that much of the country only has one vowel sound? Why did I bother?

    And Vagabond, you're in northern California. You mean to tell me all those words sound the same to you as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    Come to find out that much of the country only has one vowel sound?
    think of how much time they save
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    Isn't there an island (off the coast of Maine, I think) that linguists believe the residents speak in the same accent as the folk who originally emigrated here from England? I have a vague recollection of watching a BBC series on linguistics that stated that. The islanders, at least at the time the series was broadcast, were barely understood on the mainland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michiruwater View Post
    If you pronounce 'merry' differently... how do you pronounce it? I pronounce all three the same.
    Me, too. I'm curious about the 'merry'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nubka View Post
    Me, too. I'm curious about the 'merry'.
    I'm all out of ways to describe it without recording it (how?) and playing it back for you! If you come up with some way to do that, I will be happy to be Henry Higgins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milanessa View Post
    Isn't there an island (off the coast of Maine, I think) that linguists believe the residents speak in the same accent as the folk who originally emigrated here from England? I have a vague recollection of watching a BBC series on linguistics that stated that. The islanders, at least at the time the series was broadcast, were barely understood on the mainland.
    You might be thinking of "The Story of English," which was shown on PBS in 1986 and had a companion book that has been reissued a couple of times.

    My recollection is that they showed a few isolated communities on the East Coast, including one in Virginia, and showed that their accents sounded very much like the ones in specific contemporary communities in England from which the original settlers had come in the seventeenth century.

    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    I'm all out of ways to describe it without recording it (how?) and playing it back for you! If you come up with some way to do that, I will be happy to be Henry Higgins.
    Elocution lessons from a native Philadelphian?!

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    Ok, now I see it, but they still all sound the same to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    Elocution lessons from a native Philadelphian?!
    Hey, buddy. I've spent 30 years trying to sound like every accent-less newscaster. Maybe I'm Eliza Doolittle and not Henry, but I can ****in' fake it. And if you don't think so I'll knock your teeth out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    You might be thinking of "The Story of English," which was shown on PBS in 1986 and had a companion book that has been reissued a couple of times.

    My recollection is that they showed a few isolated communities on the East Coast, including one in Virginia, and showed that their accents sounded very much like the ones in specific contemporary communities in England from which the original settlers had come in the seventeenth century.
    That sounds familiar. Was it a BBC series? I'm fairly sure there was an island in there, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prancer View Post
    Don't we have this discussion every summer?
    but this time there are MAPS! with COLORS!
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