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    Quote Originally Posted by peibeck View Post


    So skaters who want to compete in one of those five senior B's will need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4CCs or the Olympics?!?!?
    Yes for men/ladies/dance; pairs is the same as Euros/4CCs/Olympics. All those TES minimums are listed in this thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...s-and-Olympics
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    Here are the changes from last season's announcement I see on first pass:

    Part 1.

    1. General:

    Changed: Name/Date/Place of event list reflect 2013-14 GPs/GPF and host federation country abbreviation added.

    Removed: "No skater or couple may skate in the exhibition of an event or the Final without having participated in the event itself."

    This could be great news all around for skaters who train near an event town, synchro teams, skaters from a host with more slots than popular skaters and/or skaters who don't qualify as comeback skaters or GP at all -- i.e., Miki Ando could be invited to skate in the NHK EX and/or Weir in the SA EX -- and for top skaters whom the organizers can -- ex: S/S could be invited to skate at the TEB EX and fly to Moscow directly from Paris. [ETA: there were specifics listed later in the announcement detailed in a post below that would disqualify a competitor from another Federation and maybe synchro teams]

    2. Designation of the Skaters:

    2.1 Seeded Skaters/Couples:

    Changed: Dates updated. ("2012" WC's is updated to "2013" WC's.)

    • "Split Couples" (1-6 at WC's with a prior partner at a prior championship [# years not defined]) still not included in the selection criteria or the replacement list. Last season was the first in which these couples were eligible for the initial selection (by practice) and the alternates list (by practice), but none of this appears in the announcement.
    • As in last year's announcements, there's no clarification about whether a "Come-back" skater/couple who was once in the Top 6 at a WC in the last ten years and then took time off, had to have been in the Top 6 at his/her/their last WC, or whether they could have dropped out of the Top 6 (ex: Czisny, Suguri) before taking off one or more seasons.
    • As in last year's announcement, there's superfluous text that says a "Come-back" skater/couple "would be considered as a Host Country Choice," which is true of any couple or skater who is eligible (age/residence/release) to compete internationally, since they specifically don't have to meet minimum score requirements.



    2.2 Invited skaters/couples

    Changed: Dates updated. (References to "2012" updated to "2013". References to "2010/11" changed to "2011/12." References to "2011/12" changed to "2012/13." References to "2012/13" changed to "2013/14.")

    As in last year's announcements.
    • There's no clarification for "Return Skater/Couple" about whether a skater/couple could fall out of the 7-12 in the second prior season and still be eligible.
    • There are unnecessary references to the "Return Skater/Couple" being eligible for a Host Country pick, since there is no minimum score requirement.
    • Host picks "should" be Top 75 SB, and it is "strongly suggested" that host picks meet the minimum score criteria, but this has no teeth.

    2.3 Minimum Score for Grand Prix events:

    This is where the most substantial changes have come:

    Added:

    The (GP) minimum total score is calculated on 3/5 of the highest score at the prior WC's. Hence the Men's minimum total score is 3/5 of Patrick Chan's total score, which is #3 on the SB, and not based on Javier Fernandez' Top SB score at European championships. This was the basis of last season's calculation as well, using Chan's WC score instead of Takahashi's WTT score.

    A second way to earn the minimum score is by earning minimum technical scores in the SD/SP and FD/FS in either last season's:
    • GP/GPF
    • JGP/JGPF
    • Championships
    • WTT
    • Specific International Events listed in the Announcement*
      • 2012 USFSC, (Men and Ladies)
      • Nebelhorn (Men, Ladies, Pairs, Dance)
      • Nepala (Men and Ladies)
      • Finlandia (Men and Ladies)
      • Cup of Nice (Men, Ladies, and Ice Dance)



    Or in this season's USFSC, Nebelhorn, Nepala, Finlandia, Cup of Nice*

    *If there is a qualified technical panel at the event by ISU standards. I assume this means that USFSC 2012 didn't have qualified panels for Dance and Pairs, for example.Last season, only Nebelhorn had all four disciplines that qualified towards the GP minimum technical scores.

    • The announcement doesn't specify whether the new minimum technical score have to be met at the same competition or can be met at different competitions, like TES minimums for championships.
    • The list of competitions at which a skater/team can meet the minimum technical scores is repeated on p.5 with the exception of WTT.
    • The technical minimum scores are calculated as 3/5 of the highest TES score at last year's WC's per program, with the exception of Pairs, where "20" and "36" seem to be cut and pasted from the minimum TES scores for 4C's/Euros/Olympics instead of calculated on D/R's SP TES of 41.1 (or 24.66) and V/T's FS TES of 76.36 (or 44.01). The Dance scores were based on both of D/W's TES, the Ladies on both of Kim's TES, and the Men's on Chan's SP TES and Hanyu's FS TES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peibeck View Post


    So skaters who want to compete in one of those five senior B's will need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4CCs or the Olympics?!?!?
    As I understand it, skaters who want to compete in any of the six Grand Prix events need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4Cs or the Olympics.

    If they don't already have the minimum from last season, they can use one of those five listed events to try to earn the score before their Grand Prix assignment. They don't have to already have met the minimum to enter those B events.

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    Part 2:

    Changed: Dates have been updated to reflect the 2013-14 season. ("2012" changed to "2013." "2012/13" changed to "2013/14." "Grand Prix Period" changed to "October 18, 2013 to November 24, 2013." Last individual event changed to "Rostelecom Cup -- November 22 -- 24, 2013.)

    In 3.4 "Obligation of seeded skaters", "Come-back skaters" were added to seeded skaters who may also skate in other competitions, shows and exhibitions during the Grand Prix period, if they fulfill their Grand Prix obligations.

    However, in the next paragraph, in which sanctions are listed for skaters who withdraw in advance of the GP period, "Come-back skaters" are not added.

    4.3 Final Ranking Order

    Changed: "2012/13" was changed to "2013/14" and the last event was changed to "Rostelecom Cup."

    5.2 Exhibition

    Added: "In each of the six GP events, it shall be allowed to include up to 2 exhibition numbers of either ineligible or eligible skater(s) from the host country having past tradition and/or reputation, but who have not competed in the respective event (herewith called "extra exhibition numbers"). The extra exhibition number may not take place after the winners of the respective events who must skate last in the exhibition.

    The inclusion of these 2 extra exhibition numbers is subject to the approval of the ISU President, or if not attainable, subject to approval by the Vice President Figure Skating."

    So much for inviting S/S or trying to Kim, . It seems synchro teams might also be out, even though synchro teams are part of the tradition of opening and closing ceremonies in Finland. It also appears that unless the host has a tradition of including up-and-comers, which I'm not sure they could until this year, no Nam Nyugen-like skaters.

    5.3 Exhibition Fee

    Added: The Announcement states "[The set fees for competitors does] not apply to the skaters mentioned under 5.2." Whether this means the Organizing Committee can pay what it wants, including nothing, or that there can be no compensation isn't clear.

    6.1 Technical Details

    Changed: "2012/13" updated to "2013/14." Ice Dance Short Dance rhythm requirements changed to "Communication 1782."

    7.4 Officials Remuneration

    Changed: Communication updated to "1794."

    7.6 Replacements

    Changed: The year for the five competitions at which a skater/team can obtain the minimum score(s) have been updated to "2013."

    Added: Earning the new minimum technical score while winning one of the listed Senior internationals is now included in the criteria for being placed at the bottom of the list.

    There's also an additional line that says, "as well as skaters/couples, who can prove to have skated the minimum Technical score will be added to the alternate list, bottom ranked according to their scores."

    • While this is unlikely to impact any discipline but Pairs, it appears to read that if a skater/team was not on the Top 75 SB list from the prior season, he/she/it does not have to win one of the five listed senior internationals this fall, but just has to qualify a minimum score at one of them.
    • Once again, the announcement says, "The alternate list needs to be worked through in ranking order for the top 24 ranked skaters/couples according to their Season's Best" followed by "All skaters/couples of the alternate list will be grouped in top ranked groups of five (5) skaters, out of which the respective Organizaing Member may pick one skater/couple for invitation." These statements are still contradictory and allow a host to choose a significantly weaker skater over a Top 24 SB skater.



    8. ANTI-DOPING CONTROLS

    Changed: The relevant ISU Communications have been updated to "1765" and "1800."

    9. ISU GRAND PRIX OF FIGURE SKATING FINAL 2013/14

    Changed: The dates have been updated from "2012/13" to "2013/14" and "2012" to "2013" and the location and dates changed to this year's, including deadlines and stand-by times. The SD rhythm Communication has been updated to "1782." Officials' remuneration Communication has been updated to "1794." Last event of the GP season has been updated to "Rostelecom Cup." Dates/times for the GPF schedule have been updated for 2013, along with expenses wording.

    • This is not a change, but the rules state that the Organizing Member will pay travel expenses "from the country of the Member they represent to Fukuoka and return." Surely they wouldn't send Valentina Marchei, for example, to Italy if she planned to return to Detroit to train...
    • Optional non-competitors have not been added to the GPF exhibition.


    12. ANTI DOPING

    Changed: Communications have been updated to "1765" and "1800." Dates were changed to "2013/14."
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    Minimum Total Scores:
    Men 160.68
    Ladies 130.98
    Pairs 135.42
    Ice Dance 113.73

    Minimum TES scores:
    Men 31.62 (SP) 53.43 (FS)
    Ladies 22.11 (SP) 44.85 (FS)
    Pairs 20.00 (SP) 36.00 (FS)
    Ice Dance 22.98 (SD) 32.19 (FD)
    Britney Simpson/Matthew Blackmer (USA), who are assigned to Rostelecom Cup, fulfilled the TES minimums (23.39 SP and 43.01 FS) at the 2012 JGP in Austria (they fell just short of the required total with 133.05).
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    Quote Originally Posted by peibeck View Post


    So skaters who want to compete in one of those five senior B's will need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4CCs or the Olympics?!?!?
    The ISU has already said that the GP is their premier event showcasing the "best of the best"; championships are for keeping enough federations happy by letting in the riff-raff, and the Olympics already has limited fields and a Nebelhorn "playoff."

    I would guess that the logic here is that if a singles skater or dance team doesn't have the pull of PCS to qualify with the total score, but shows special technical competence -- i.e., 3/5 of the TES of the highest TES segment score at last year's Worlds -- they should be allowed to qualify for a spot through the other criteria and/or be towards the bottom of the alternates list.

    Quote Originally Posted by gkelly View Post
    As I understand it, skaters who want to compete in any of the six Grand Prix events need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4Cs or the Olympics.
    Unless they are Pairs, for which the technical minimums are the same as the technical minimums for 4C's/Euros/Olympics.

    -----

    Those on the Top 75 SB lists who did not have the total minimum score and how they fared in meeting the new technical minimums for SP and FS (which they may have met more than once):

    Ladies:
    • Shershak (SP: JGP Bled. Just missed FS technical minimum by .13)*
    • Turkkila (both: Nebelhorn)
    • Ying Zhang (both: CoC)
    • Xiaowen Guo (both: JGP Bled)

    Turkkila and Zhang skated seniors last season. The other three are age-eligible for seniors.

    Men:
    None: Up through SB 75 made total minimum (160.68)

    Dance:
    • Elsener/Roost (both: Euros)
    • Meng/Meng (both: JGP Zagreb)
    • Karmi/Lindholm (both: Euros)
    • Evdokimova/Bazin (SP: JPG Courcheval; FS: JGP Bled)*
    • Elizabeth/LeGac (SP: Jr. Worlds; FS: JGP Istanbul)*
    • Pogrebinsky/Gudis (both: JGP Lake Placid)
    • Simonova/Dragun (FS: JGP Linz)*
    • Hasegawa/Hasegawa (SP: JGP Courcheval)*
    • Uzurova/Ali (both: JGP Zagreb)
    • Telegina/Japaridze (SP: Euros)*
    • Chiriyatyeva/Shevchenko (FS: JGP Chemnitz)*
    • Cyr/Brisebois Gaudreau (none)


    Elsener/Roost, Karmi/Lindholm, and Telegina/Japaridze skated seniors last year. Some of these teams may have split. I'm not bored enough to check on age-eligibility of the rest, since it's unlikely they would be considered for a Dance substitution being below 60 on the SB list.

    Pairs: (where it's likely to matter, although there are four split couples -- Davis/Brubaker, Purich/Tran, Takahashi/Kihara, and Antipova/Maisuradze -- at the top of the list with just one GP each)

    • Kemp/King (both: Euros)
    • Simpson/Blackmer, who have been assigned to RUS (both: Jr. Worlds)
    • Calalang/Sidhu (both: Jr. Worlds)
    • Donlan/Speroff (FS: Nebelhorn. Just missed SP at Nebelhorn and SA)*
    • Aaron/Settlage (both: JGP Zagreb)
    • Lavrentieva/Rudyk (both: JGP Lake Placid)
    • Bell/Sylvester (both: JGP Zagreb)
    • Pfund/Reiss (both: JGP Chemnitz)
    • Rau/Simpson (FS: JGP Chemnitz. Within a point of the SP minimum there)
    • Li/Jiang (both: Jr. Worlds)
    • Kuklina/Petukhov (both: JGP Lake Placid)
    • Tudvaseva/Lisiev (FS: JGP Linz)
    • Makarova/Kenchadze (both: Euros)
    • Desjardins/Bilodeau (FS: JGP Lake Placid. Within a point fo the SP minimum there)
    • de la Mora/Wilson (FS: JGP Linz)
    • Foresti/Sforza (both: Jr. Worlds)
    • Martini/Kiefer (both: Euros)
    • Bauer/Seegert (SP: JGP Chemnitz)
    • Kang/Kim (SP: JPG Chemnitz)
    • Lech/Tyc (SP: Jr. Worlds)
    • Paliakova/Bochkov (SP: Euros)
    • Zaitsev/Stevens (none)
    • Oltlmanns/Santillan (none, within a point for SP at JGP Lake Placid)
    • Ekaterinina/Tarasov (none, within a point for SP at JGP Chemnitz)
    • Klatka/Chruscinski (none)
    • Epstein/Epstein (none)
    • Manacorda/Macii (none)
    • Ilieva/Savinov (none)
    • Cernuschi/Ambrosini (none)
    • Kestila/Bullard (none)
    • Smyth/Dodds (none)


    Same caveats for Pairs as Dance WRT age eligibility, whether they're still together.

    *The GP Announcement doesn't say whether the technical minimums can be met at separate events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    Part 2:

    5.2 Exhibition

    Added: "In each of the six GP events, it shall be allowed to include up to 2 exhibition numbers of either ineligible or eligible skater(s) from the host country having past tradition and/or reputation, but who have not competed in the respective event (herewith called "extra exhibition numbers"). The extra exhibition number may not take place after the winners of the respective events who must skate last in the exhibition.

    The inclusion of these 2 extra exhibition numbers is subject to the approval of the ISU President, or if not attainable, subject to approval by the Vice President Figure Skating."

    So much for inviting S/S or trying to Kim, . It seems synchro teams might also be out, even though synchro teams are part of the tradition of opening and closing ceremonies in Finland. It also appears that unless the host has a tradition of including up-and-comers, which I'm not sure they could until this year, no Nam Nyugen-like skaters.
    And the rationale for this is??? Did they want the audiences to get even smaller than they already are?? <scratches head>

    I wonder if anyone has crunched the numbers wrt entries at Sr Bs since the minimum tech scores were introduced. It certainly seems like there have been more skaters going to Sr Bs than in the past, skaters who otherwise might not have been assigned to a Sr B.
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    Many of the full-pass visitors leave before the EX anyway in order to avoid losing a Monday from work, and the exhibitions are marketed to locals. Having a local skater with a fan base or a well-known national skater could sell tickets. In the past, USFS could have invited Michelle Kwan to skate in the Skate America EX, or the Russian Federation could have invited Plushenko or Yagudin to CoR/RC, or the Chinese Fed Shen/Zhao, and I'm sure these skaters would have drawn in numerous fans, as I'm sure Johnny Weir would if he were invited to this year's exhibition, assuming he doesn't get the TBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peibeck View Post


    So skaters who want to compete in one of those five senior B's will need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4CCs or the Olympics?!?!?


    No, skaters who want to compete in one of the Grand Prix events will need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4CCs or the Olympics. (Well, that's an oversimplification, as explained by people who responded before I did, but you get the general idea.)

    AFAIK, Senior "B" events do not have any minimum TES score requirements.

    And that makes sense. The Grand Prix as it currently exists is supposed to be for truly elite skaters -- ideally the top thirty or forty in each discipline and certainly not below the top seventy-five except for substitute host picks. So one would expect skaters like Ali Demirboğa and Inga Janulevičiūtė to be eligible for Euros but not for the Grand Prix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peibeck View Post


    So skaters who want to compete in one of those five senior B's will need a higher minimum TES than they would need to compete at Euros/4CCs or the Olympics?!?!?
    Sorry, I misread your questions the first time: there are no minimum scores needed to compete in any Senior B, as they're not ISU events.

    Since GP minimums were added, the ISU has designated a handful of early season Senior B's at which a skater/team could earn the GP minimum scores, had they not earned it with their SB score at ISU and Olympic events.

    This season with the new technical minimums added, the skater/team could earn the new program-specific TES minimums at either this year's or last year's handful of Senior B's.

    Minimum total score can be earned at:
    • 2012 GP/JGP or GPF/JGPF
    • 2013 Championships
    • 2013 World Team Trophy
    • 2012 USFSC (Ladies and Men)
    • 2012 Nebelhorn (all disciplines)
    • 2012 Nepala (Ladies and Men)
    • 2012 Finlandia (Men and Ladies)
    • 2012 Cup of Nice (Men, Ladies, and Dance)


    The way it's written, the total minimum score cannot be met at this season's handful of Senior B's.

    Minimum Technical SP/SD and FS/FD scores can be earned at:
    • 2013 Championships
    • 2012 GP/JGP and GPF/JGPF
    • 2012 USFSC (Ladies and Men)+
    • 2012 Nebelhorn (all disciplines)+
    • 2012 Nepala (Ladies and Men)+
    • 2012 Finlandia (Men and Ladies)+
    • 2012 Cup of Nice (Men, Ladies, and Dance)+
    • 2013 USFSC (all disciplines*)
    • 2013 Nebelhorn (all disciplines*)
    • 2013 Nepala (all disciplines*)
    • 2013 Finlandia (no disciplines specified, Men*, Ladies*, Dance* listed in 1792)
    • 2013 Cup of Nice (all disciplines)*



    *If the tech panel requirements have been met. For example, only 2012 USFSC Ladies' and Men's scores count towards the technical minimum, although Pairs and Dance were competed, which means the tech panel requirements weren't met at that competition, assuming the info is correct.

    +Mentioned in the initial paragraph ("selected international competitions [last season or current season]" -- but left out of the paragraph directly below the list of technical minimums ("ISU Championships, ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating and Final [Senior or Junior' between July 1st 2012 and May 31st 2013] are eligible for selection into the Grand Prix events 2013/14 or in the alternate list").

    So, they've added last season's select Senior B's to this year's list of competitions at which a skater could have earned either/both of the total minimum score and technical minimum scores, and from the opening paragraph, this season's select Senior B's can be used to earn only the technical minimum scores, but not the total minimum scores. However, there's ambiguous language, as usual, that might suggest that the 2013 competitions might be used to meet the total minimum score as well.
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    The ISU published updates to Pairs and Dance on 19 July in which the Reeds have replaced the TBA's for both disciplines. They're also listed on the Pairs roster for Rostelecom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    The ISU published updates to Pairs and Dance on 19 July in which the Reeds have replaced the TBA's for both disciplines. They're also listed on the Pairs roster for Rostelecom.
    LOL - these links clear it up: http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2013/gpspairs.htm and http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2013/gpsdance.htm

    Takahashi and Kikara and the Reeds both have two assignments now.

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    Just getting back to the files with the previous printouts, yes, they "replaced" Takahashi/Kihara's initial assignment at Rostelecom Cup with the Reeds and assigned R/R the TBA in Pairs instead of replacing the Pairs TBA with Takahashi/Kihara.

    That makes 19 July the date on which the Japanese Federation announced its TBA assignments. (There were no TBA's for Ladies and Men.)
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    Also dated the 19 July is the latest update, reinstating Takahashi/Kihara to Rostelecom Cup and assigning them to the TBA position at NHK Trophy.
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    sammyf posted about the confirmation of the Jones/Beharry split and their removal from the National Team:
    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...=1#post3963715

    J/B were 25th on the SB list.
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    Adam Rippon, Samantha Cesario, and Felicia Zhang/Nate Bartholomay were named to Skate America in this USFS press release (Dance still TBA) published on Aug. 15: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=49428&type=media

    Re-posting this question in this relevant thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne View Post
    What's the situation with the skaters who are on the substitute list (or replacement list or whatever you call it)? Where are they on that and how likely are they to get a GP at this stage? *clueless*
    ETA that the following was posted in this thread back on June 3rd:
    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    All but one man, Nathan Chen, in the Top 24 SB is skating Senior next year. Of the 23 seniors, 21 have two each; only Menshov and Brown have one each.

    The next skaters on the SB list are:
    25-Voronov (NHK)
    26-Liebers (CoC, RC)
    27-Rogozine (SC)
    28-Majorov (SA)
    29-Rippon (NHK)
    30-Gachinski (SA)
    31-Ge

    All but TEB TBA's usually are assigned by the end of August/beginning of September, and either Menshov, Voronov, or Gachinski should get the RC TBA. Unless USFS gives it to Johnson (I hope), Rippon or Brown is likely to get SA. With Liebers already with two, that would put Ge in the first alternates group of 5 (if they use the same process as last season), unless Johnson gets SA, in which case, Ge would be in the second alternates group. While all but Majorov are from host Federations, they could have conflicts with the event (already assigned, huge travel costs, three from the country already assigned [there are three US Men in half the events]).
    Last edited by Sylvia; 08-16-2013 at 03:35 AM.
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    Interesting - Jason is at #20 on the WR, ahead of Rippon who is #21. So did they give Adam SkAm on the basis that Jason may yet get a substitute GP?

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    From page 11 of the GP Announcement (section titled 7.6 Replacements): http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=4555
    "The alternate list needs to be worked through in ranking order for the top 24 ranked skaters/couples according to their Season’s Best. All skaters/couples of the alternate list will be grouped in top ranked groups of five (5) skaters, out of which the respective Organizing Member may pick one skater/couple for invitation."
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    Ah. So if we're talking season's best (not world ranking), Jason is #22 and Adam is #29, which does make it more likely that Jason would get a second GP as a replacement instead of Adam.

    Bumbling my way through these lists at any rate. Is Jason the highest-ranked skater on that list with only one GP? Would that mean he is #1 in the replacement line?

    This is so confusing.

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