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    Donut Spins

    Who did the first donut spin?
    Who does your favorite donut spin?
    My personal favorite is Gabrielle Daleman's.
    Last edited by Jebrista; 05-17-2013 at 01:42 AM.

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    The first time I noticed the position was from the gold and silver medalists at 1993 Worlds. But I hadn't been paying that close attention in early years.

    Does this position count?

    Can anyone think of another skater who did it earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jebrista View Post
    favorite donut spin?
    Yukari Nakano's.

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    Yukari Nakano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0h3BG9nDv0 at end


    General comment: More skaters need to be getting neg goe's on their spins because they are often so slow (especially in the last postion) that they hardly qualify as spinning imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falling_dance View Post
    I hadn't even seen you selection of skater when I was choosing my own. lol

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    I think Oksana made it famous. It must not be worth much in the COP as hardly any skaters do it these days.

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    Donut Spins

    I don't think any position is worth more or less, it just checks off a box for a level or it doesn't. It surely checks off a box but there must be other ways to check off boxes that are easier for various reasons.
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    Baiul really did have the best donut. Arakawa and Nakano too. I am loving the new variation by Sotnikova where her upper body is twisted upwards while in donut position.

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    Plushenko. He could get into it without dropping his hip.

    Alas, that was before all the back problems. Le sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Baiul really did have the best donut. Arakawa and Nakano too. I am loving the new variation by Sotnikova where her upper body is twisted upwards while in donut position.
    I started to say cecilia college was the first to do it, but hers was more like what you are describing but the head and foot were not so close, so I wasn't sure.
    She is one of those given credit for the camel spin so not far fetched that she would have carried it further.

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    I know Colledge did what I call a catch-foot camel. The donut is a variety of catch-foot camel, but I think of it as specifically being what tech panels now consider a "CS" camel variation (belly button facing side, rather than forward) and with the head, hips, and free foot all in approximately the same horizontal plane, rather than the head and foot being lifted higher than the hips as in a typical catch camel.

    Also, ideally, to be considered a "donut" the body should be arched enough to make a circular rather than angular shape.

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    Baiul made it famous but she had to drop the hip in order to catch the blade and then pull up into the position, to me this indicates a lack of back flexibility that others have demonstrated in the position.

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    I remember Oksana Baiul popularizing it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...HQmcK7g#t=107s

    I agree my favorite donut spin is done by Yukari Nakano. The position is beautiful and the speed she maintains is wonderful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...OtFlcjI#t=179s
    (Yukari was an amazing spinner and sometimes I felt like she didn't get enough credit for that. I loved the extension of her leg and the point of her toe, her centering was wonderful and she was able to hit multiple positions without losing speed. This combination spin is incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...nOtFlcjI#t=73s - Camel to COE down to a beautiful extension on the sit position, up to a layback, change foot to back sit spin, COE up to catch foot Biellmann (gorgeous extension, plus it took her only one rotation to switch to that position!), and down to back reversed leg spin...and look at the speed and centering! AMAZING!!).

    I do like Adelina's twist version of the spin too.
    Last edited by kwanatic; 05-16-2013 at 08:30 PM.

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    Plushenko.. in 2004 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGanRnHVNIs 2'33"

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    Quote Originally Posted by falling_dance View Post
    that was the first who came in my mind too. I think she is the best.

    I love Carolina Kostners too. She had it a few times, 2007 LP http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mluVQjTo#t=74s
    and last year in the LP at SA,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sxiz9QU#t=125s
    changed it for TEB

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    Agreed. The first one I ever saw was Oksana Baiul's in her gold medal Olympic performance, but the best one I've seen is Yukari Nakano's. All of Yukari's camel spins are fantastic!

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    Yukari Nakano came into mind first. Sorry npavel, I don't see the appeal of Kostner's donut spin. While it is very controlled, it's not very fast or held for very long.

    Kexin Zhang has a very interesting donut spin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVP2Q...tailpage#t=84s
    The ending position is really like a pretzel.

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    For me Oksana did it the best. I remember some even called it the 'Baiul spin'. She was for sure the first I remember performing it although I know other skaters did it before.

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    When I think of donut spin, Yukari Nakano comes to my mind.

    I also really liked this spin of Yuna Kim. That spin went so well with the music and her costume that it looked just ethereal.

    I think Alyssa Csizny is one of the best spinners ever, but when she attempts donut spin, it always took very long to grab her blade and her hip would stick out kind of unattractively and it always wondered me why. That is the only spin position of hers that I don't like.
    Last edited by invierno; 05-17-2013 at 03:58 AM.

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