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    Unhappy It's happened again...NTSB: 10 KILLED IN ALASKA PLANE CRASH!

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    NTSB: 10 KILLED IN ALASKA PLANE CRASH
    By MARK THIESSEN
    — Jul. 7 11:21 PM EDT

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    Police and emergency personnel stand near the remains of a fixed-wing aircraft that was engulfed in flames Sunday July 7, 2013 at the Soldotna Airport in Soldotna, Alaska. No survivors were located and it is unknown how many people were on board. (AP Photo/Peninsula Clarion, Rashah McChesney)

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    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — An air taxi crashed Sunday at an Alaska airport, killing all 10 people aboard, a National Transportation Safety Board investigator said.

    The accident happened around 11:20 a.m. and sent the fixed-wing aircraft up in flames, said Meagan Peters of Alaska State Troopers. The victims have not yet been identified.

    NTSB investigator Clint Johnson said the pilot and nine passengers were killed in the crash at the airport late Sunday morning. Initial reports had the accident happening as the plane took off.

    NTSB identified the aircraft in a release Sunday as a de Havilland Otter Air Taxi, which the Aviation Safety Foundation says can seat up to 20 passengers.

    The NTSB is sending a team to investigate the crash. NTSB spokesman Eric Weiss said one local member of the team was at the scene Sunday evening.

    For many Alaskans, flying across the state is common, exposing residents to a litany of hazards including treacherous mountain passes and volatile weather.

    Alaska already has seen several plane crashes this year, including a June 28 crash that killed a pilot and two passengers on a commercial tour in the Alaska Range.

    The Soldotna crash comes a day after an Asiana flight crashed at San Francisco's airport.

    Soldotna is south of Anchorage on the Kenai Peninsula.

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    When I visited Alaska, I heard that they don't have that many highways, and people fly a lot more.
    Plane crashes in Alaska must be like auto accidents here, although it does not make them less tragic, and auto accidents are less likely to be fatal than plane crashes. Sad for the 10 who lost their lives.

    Oddly I did not see this news on TV; Was it too small for them? Or may be I missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    When I visited Alaska, I heard that they don't have that many highways, and people fly a lot more.
    Plane crashes in Alaska must be like auto accidents here, although it does not make them less tragic, and auto accidents are less likely to be fatal than plane crashes. Sad for the 10 who lost their lives.

    Oddly I did not see this news on TV; Was it too small for them? Or may be I missed it.
    It is ironic that this crash, which had 5 times the loss of life as the Asiana crash and 100% fatalities, will get less media coverage. Partly it is the fact that it occurred in a fairly remote area of Alaska; the other factor is that it is perceived as less "dramatic" than a major airline's fully-loaded commercial jet crashing at the airport of a major city.

    But the loss of life is just as tragic...the families just as devastated.

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    Yes, but, as you said, it occurred in a remote area so no camera footage is available. Americans tend (IMO) to be visual. It has been covered on CNN but with no survivors and no film coverage I'm not sure what they can say on the news except that it happened.
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    Maybe friends and family are glad though. That means they can mourn with fairly little media attention (there'll probably be some if the names are made public)

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    Quote Originally Posted by milanessa View Post
    Yes, but, as you said, it occurred in a remote area so no camera footage is available. Americans tend (IMO) to be visual. It has been covered on CNN but with no survivors and no film coverage I'm not sure what they can say on the news except that it happened.
    True, we don't know of any film footage, but there were still photographs; and since this accident happened on take-off, there had to have been witnesses at the airport.

    EDIT: The AP has this brief news report...

    10 Killed in Alaska Plane Crash

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    AssociatedPress·
    Published on Jul 8, 2013
    Nine passengers and one pilot died on Sunday, when a small plane crashed at an airport in Alaska. The crash happened in Soldotna, about 75 miles from Anchorage. (July 8)
    Last edited by dardar1126; 07-08-2013 at 07:04 PM.

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    When a large plane crashes, with or without casualties, it gets a lot more attention because more people and usually multiple nationalities are involved. In many cases the death toll is very high, which attracts more coverage also. Crashes of small planes occur more frequently but they are usually covered by the local news media. For the families the loss is just as devastating- whether hundreds of people were killed or just their family member. Still, networks typically don't invest a lot of resources to cover these crashes, unless a famous person was aboard (e.g. JFK Jr. and his wife).

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    It's also, as said, not nearly as uncommon. Most plane crashes are light/smaller aircraft, and in Alaska, as that's often the only way to get anywhere, it happens more often. Even including totally disappearing to never be found (the Boggs-Begich disappearance, where despite there being two Congressmen aboard and pretty much every resource being tapped for the search, they never found a trace of the plane or bodies.) Even down here light aircraft crashes don't usually get national coverage-last year my brother called me from his office on a Saturday, as he was stuck there having been called in to dump tapes for the NTSB. One of the private planes crashed on takeoff and killed the family of four aboard and he'd been the closest available employee to come in and start compiling airport data for the investigators. Did anyone outside Westchester County hear about it? Probably not. (I just felt bad for whatever person got delegated to go to their destination airport, Montauk, which is nonstaffed, to tell the aunt waiting for the plane that it wouldn't be arriving. My brother was very glad that next-of-kin calls are usually his boss's boss's job.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dardar1126 View Post
    It is ironic that this crash, which had 5 times the loss of life as the Asiana crash and 100% fatalities, will get less media coverage. Partly it is the fact that it occurred in a fairly remote area of Alaska; the other factor is that it is perceived as less "dramatic" than a major airline's fully-loaded commercial jet crashing at the airport of a major city.

    But the loss of life is just as tragic...the families just as devastated.
    There are many car crashes every day, with equal or worse fatalities than Asiana 214. Nobody talks about them.

    It's just that a commercial jetliner has so much more potential for tragedy, that we'd want to prevent it from happening at all. There were more than 300 souls on board.

    Losing 10 lives is a tragedy in itself, yes, but definitely less so than 300.

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    For news value, nothing beats a major airline crash. First of all, almost everybody flies a big plane to somewhere at some point in their lives, and even frequent flyers get nervous. No matter how many statistics there are about overall airline safety, the notion of being up there, rather than on a highway, doesn't bear too much thinking about. There's an essential insecurity about flying that goes very deep.

    Someone did a study about how much network TV time is devoted to news about airlines, airplanes, TSA etc, and it is way, way out of proportion to the actual newsworthiness. How many stories did you see about flight attendants opposing pocket knives on airplanes? Is that really one of the five burning issues for World News Tonight six out of 15 evenings? Apparently so.

    Milanessa is right that the visuals in a plane crash (see LOST pilot, no pun intended) are dramatic, but like possibly-racially-motivated killings and award show trainwrecks, it's a major media go-to for deeper reasons and has been for 50 years.
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    PRLady is correct. I might add that they have to appeal to a larger 'market'- viewers, and they don't have to report every accident that takes place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    For news value, nothing beats a major airline crash. First of all, almost everybody flies a big plane to somewhere at some point in their lives, and even frequent flyers get nervous. No matter how many statistics there are about overall airline safety, the notion of being up there, rather than on a highway, doesn't bear too much thinking about. There's an essential insecurity about flying that goes very deep.
    So true. You can actually feel the overall sigh of relief once the plane has stopped braking and the calm voice of the attendant is heard telling everyone to remain in their seats.

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    http://www.adn.com/2013/07/08/296768...-soldotna.html

    5 children among those killed in Soldotna crash
    S. Carolina families killed in crash were flying to see bears
    Published: July 8, 2013 Updated 2 hours ago
    By MICHELLE THERIAULT BOOTS and LISA DEMER — Anchorage Daily News

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    SOLDOTNA — Two families from Greenville, S.C., on their way to a bear viewing lodge on the Alaska Peninsula, have been identified as nine of the 10 people killed in the fiery crash of an air taxi taking off from the Soldotna airport Sunday.

    The victims were Milton and Kimberly Antonakos and their children, Olivia, 16, Mills, 14, and Anastacia, 11, and Dr. Chris McManus, his wife, Stacey, and their two children, Connor and Meghan.

    Nikiski native Walter "Willie" Rediske, 42, was identified Sunday as the pilot. He also died.

    Federal investigators say they are just beginning their investigation to determine what caused the de Havilland DHC3-T Otter to crash and burn feet from the lone runway at the Soldotna Municipal Airport just after 11:20 a.m. Sunday, killing all aboard in the worst aviation accident in Alaska in more than a decade.

    A National Transportation Safety Board "Go-Team" was dispatched from Washington, D.C., and arrived in Alaska on Monday. Go-Teams are assigned to investigate major aviation crashes.

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    Ugh, two whole families. :

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    How terribly sad!

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    Here is the story on CNN with pictures of the two families from S.Carolina that were killed (this news finally got some visibility). Such lovely families. Such a tragedy!

    http://www.cnn.com/

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    When there is a tragedy like this the ripples of loss and grief spread far and wide.

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