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    I think it likely has to do with him never having won a major title and also because he was an internal, quiet guy who didn't bring a lot of attention to himself. I appreciate the fact that he wasn't a media whore. It's REALLY hard to believe that as a senior skater, Matt never won a gold or silver medal in any competition nationally or internationally. He was SO MUCH BETTER than he was ever given credit for! Reputation has such a heavy influence on judges though. Regardless, I would prefer to watch a Matt Savoie, a Jeremy Abbott, or a Ryan Jahnke ANY DAY of the week over a Evan Lysacek, Johnny Weir, or Evgeny Plushenko. JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkelly View Post
    It's one thing to appreciate what a skater does well, and to lament what they did not do so well or lament the fact that the judging standards at the time seemed to prioritize different strengths or lament the luck of some skaters having breakout performances in the right place at the right time and others suffering from the luck of the draw, off day at just the wrong time, or skating in the shadow of more successful compatriots.

    I think all of the above reasons can explain why Savoie didn't have more competitive success -- without positing active conspiracy theories -- and why many fans adore his skating nonetheless.

    I just don't like the approach of declaring some skaters "worthy" and others "unworthy" as summaries of their entire careers. I'd rather just enjoy the good stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    Whether his skating "projected" enough to suit the judges, or some posters; it was still a privilege to watch his programs, and follow his career.
    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessLeppard View Post
    I love Matt. I screamed at my TV when he wasn't sent to the 2002 Olympics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Matt and Ryan Jahnke...interesting US males to watch.
    Absolutely!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4nAEsXi2Eo Matt S 2006 Exhibition to Summertime with lyrics -- superb interpretation of the music, my Gosh -- gush, gush!!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbzfIXTm0Mw Ryan J 2004 US Nats FS (one of Tom Dickson's best-loved programs he choreographed!)

    Young Ryan J @ 1998 Nationals FS
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5L5t-BEYoM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TngyPQyw6k4 Ryan J 2004 SC fs Such gorgeous skating to classical music -- Wow, that whole last section from 3:20 to 5:12 is so wonderful ... especially the spread eagle into tano 3lutz, and then moving into 3flip prior to fabulous footwork section. I wonder who choreographed this program? Another by Tom Dickson?

    Ryan J 2012 exhibition skate (a beautiful expression of Ryan's passionate spirit and caring heart)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BOyk6lktC0


    Patrick C and Ryan J duel -- Wish the lighting was better, but fun, fun anyways.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OdszQcFUE0

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