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    Chemistry in pairs/ice dancing

    What is your definition of so called "good on ice chemistry" in pairs & ice dancing? Is it necessary to have good chemistry to be a successful pair-in your opinion?

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    Chemistry is what makes a partnership believeable and not just going through the motions. It is that moment of connection that you feel you are either sharing a secret with the team or being a voyuer.

    There definitely has to be the technical grounding, but when you have the chemistry it is the cherry on the top and it transcends the sport and makes it special.
    When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulu View Post
    What is your definition of so called "good on ice chemistry" in pairs & ice dancing? Is it necessary to have good chemistry to be a successful pair-in your opinion?
    It's too subjective. For every person who says "that pair had no chemistry" there are 10 more who say they do. A pair not being 'compatable' is another topic. I feel Duhamel and Radford seem like they have great conection on the ice, but I find them very mis-matched. She is tiny and athletic and he is tall and artistic.

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    When faced with the challenge of defining pornography, supreme court justice Stewart said it's hard to define but "I know it when I see it." That's how I feel about on ice chemistry. For me, I can see and "feel" the chemistry. In ice dance v/m probably have the best chemistry ever, IMO. I can't tell you why but their programs always give me chills. In pairs I feel the same about v/t. I think that's what gives them an edge over s/s (who I also love). S/S are a great pair, well matched, wonderfully complementary, but lacking that level of chemistry. I don't think it has anything to do with romantic feelings either. G/G were a legendary pair, married, but still lacking a lot of on ice chemistry. Most teams have chemistry, but just varying levels. A team with no chemistry gives the impression that skating together is their job, and when the program is over they have no interest in having anything at all to do with one another. Some couples (who shall not be named) seem to me as though they don't even like each other on a basic level. As to the value of chemistry, it has seemed to give an edge in some cases and be meaningless in others!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissJD View Post
    ... A team with no chemistry gives the impression that skating together is their job, and when the program is over they have no interest in having anything at all to do with one another. Some couples (who shall not be named) seem to me as though they don't even like each other on a basic level. As to the value of chemistry, it has seemed to give an edge in some cases and be meaningless in others!
    Well said, I share a great deal of this point of view, but would like to know in which cases chemistry is/was meaningless...? Meaningless to the skaters themselves, or to the audience watching them?

    Chemistry between two people for me can be defined as a composition of trust, a certain liking for each other, and a visible harmony/unison, a "togetherness" regardless of the body types being well- or mismatched (physical characteristics have nothing to do with chemistry, IMO, this goes for on the ice as well as off ice).

    I don't dare judging if the two people I'm watching feel a personal connection (this could be faked, like telling a romantic story, as actors do on stage), but I maybe can judge whether there's a harmony and a certain understanding, that should be visible in a performance. If two people don't like each other, skating together is one of the worst things they could do to themselves and each other; skating on competitive level is consuming up a lot of time and money, and spending time and money on a relationship you don't feel worthy must be utterly painful...

    In skating, we come to see couples with three mayor kinds of relationships:
    -being together on the basis of a work-relationship - like T/D, G/P, A/P... - no one can tell me there wasn't any chemistry between Anissina and Peizerat, but they were never romantically involved, as they say...

    Married couples/romantic couples - there are so many; but it's obvious they work well as long as the relationship is going well; when in trouble privately, the spark leaves the on-ice relationship quickly, and chemistry turns to the worst.

    Brother-sister-teams - also many. They are tied to each other for a lifetime, and I belive no siblings-team would work when there wasn't a will to work together and a trust in each other. It seems to me that the relationships between the partners in these teams are more consistent and more stable than in the categories mentioned before. It's like they were born with a chemistry for each other, whereas other skaters have to search for a match.
    Last edited by Shyjosie; 09-09-2013 at 07:26 AM.

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    [QUOTE=Shyjosie;3989899]Well said, I share a great deal of this point of view, but would like to know in which cases chemistry is/was meaningless...? Meaningless to the skaters themselves, or to the audience watching them? [QUOTE]

    I wasn't very clear there! I meant meaningless in the result. The original question was is the chemistry necessary for the couple to be successful. I don't think it is. Maybe under 6.0 one could make a better case that it mattered, but no "chemistry" is necessary to execute the elements, and I have no idea what judges are thinking when they award pcs! As far as the audience, I think they see and appreciate chemistry but it matters to some more than others. And I definitely think chemistry helps tell the program story!

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    Thank you very much for clarifying! It makes sense to me, absolutely. Success might as well be based on pure skill and a common aim with a couple. Chemistry, as I understand it, goes beyond what's neccessary to work well together.
    Quote Originally Posted by MissJD View Post
    And I definitely think chemistry helps tell the program story!
    ..and I couldn't agree more here.

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