sorry for the double post.
Last edited by Dyu; 04-23-2013 at 04:53 AM.
The thing is that there's lots of truth in his comments..
Last edited by Dyu; 04-23-2013 at 04:53 AM.
Not even clever, just merely crass, like grade 3 boy bathroom humor.
If you don't like them, then put the poster on ignore and move on.
I am far from an expert on the ISU finances but I do understand organizational finances in general and his comments are ridiculously simplistic and ego-centric. it seems to me the elite events support the development programs such as the junior grand prix. A series patrick benefitted from himself. We can debate the value of various ISU initiatives but I am sure that the reality for an organization like the ISU is that the big events, support the smaller. For example, I cannot imagine that a typical junior grand prix makes the organizer any money without ISU support. The lack of interest in hosting junior worlds and four continents shows that federations find those tough too. These high paying events support the others.
I have always loved patrick. I think he has a wonderful talent and is one of the great skaters. However, these types of comments are getting really tiresome and I find it harder and harder to want to see him win. His image is taking a beating. Comments like this plus his substandard performances this year are really tarnishing him. Aside from ISU displeasure, sponsors will stay away from him as in a sport like FS, I can't image sponsors wanting to deal with a loose cannon. Add to this he made quite a bit of money for his weekend in tokyo (especially compared to the average canadian) and he comes off like a spoiled brat.
If he really wants the Olympic gold, he needs to focus on training, get a proper technical coach (the reality is that his technical skills betrayed him this year and any improvements in expression/artistry are lost when you are on your backside) and keep his mouth shut. Let his performances speak. Otherwise, he will be added to the list of great skaters who never win an Olympic gold.
Well said, Mont.
While I find Patrick's comments colorful and would prefer honesty to the standard PC PR language, at this point he sounds petulant. I have no sympathy, that's for sure. The performance should always speak for itself- although judging is still subjective. It will be interesting to see how the Olympic year shakes out for all the skaters that have so much at stake in terms of wanting to define their careers with an Olympic medal.
Patrick might want to do some research about what happened the last time skaters; and others who were concerned about the sport, -- some seemingly beyond reproach -- dared "challenge" the ISU.
Last edited by spikydurian; 04-23-2013 at 11:19 PM.
Prosperity makes friends, adversity tries them. Ė Publilius Syrus
I honestly have no problems with what Patrick said. I also think this competition is stupid. These skaters train to peak at World's. This will never be more than an afterthought for them. As far as unions. Most sports have them. Granted some of them have been IMO getting greedy. But it is hardly ridiculous to mention it. I also think if the skaters had a union they might be able to have a hand in fixing the COP. They should as well as the coaches should have at least a real say. Which i don;t think they do. It is certainly better than the 6.0 by a land mile but it is flawed.
And a lot of these skaters do shows to help pay for their careers. Sure they get sponsorship. But a lot of times it isn't enough.
Patrick is terrible at diplomacy but I really don't give a crap. Just because you don't like his attitude doesn't mean he doesn't have anything to contribute or have a real valid point to make.
I also think discounting their training competitive schedules as no big deal is unfair. They train/create entirely new product from june/july and compete until march. They don't get paid like any other sports people and are stuck between amateur and professional status with restrictions on what they can and can't do.
While Patrick does lack the diplomatic finesse of his fellow skaters, I think he raises an important point. Why does the ISU have so much power (force skaters to compete and inflict penalties) and why are skaters/coaches so afraid to question their decisions? Sounds more like a dictatorship that a sports federation...
Again, going off my knowledge of other similar structures. The ISU provides the competition infastructure to the athletes. They also are the international federation recognized by the IOC. So while change is almost undoubtedly needed and its ridiculous that these old people are clinging to ISU positions on council (eg Cinquanta, Dore) until virtually their last breath, even modernizing it there will be the need for some of these rules to ensure it remains viable. One cannot cut away parts without considering the whole.