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    Wcvb has reporters onside and they said that authorities removed the tarp and the person "is moving." That could Lso mean they're moving his body, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Playing devil's advocate here: Are these two really those who set up the bombs at the finish line? Their family does not believe it. What kind of proof can be given?

    Mistakes have been made in the past (e.g. Atlanta Olympics). What if these two are not the killers? (They did kill the MIT police officer however).
    Video footage, pictures of them at the scene. (Granted, if they're blurry, one could argue it's a false ID.)
    Details of what was found at their residence might also prove their involvement, although the authorities have not made those details public (wisely). Bomb materials can be very distinctive.
    If they do catch this guy alive....a confession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Playing devil's advocate here: Are these two really those who set up the bombs at the finish line? Their family does not believe it. What kind of proof can be given?
    They're not seeking to convict at this point, only apprehend, so proof isn't exactly needed. But you're right, maybe it's just coincidental that a few bombs were set off on Monday, and last night on Thursday, two guys who just happen to have been at the scene car jack someone, tell them that they're the marathon bombers, and then leave a wake of explosives in their trail.
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    Assuming the guy who they carjacked is truthful, the brothers admitted they were the marathon bombers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BittyBug View Post
    They're not seeking to convict at this point, only apprehend, so proof isn't exactly needed. But you're right, maybe it's just coincidental that a few bombs were set off on Monday, and last night on Thursday, two guys who just happen to have been at the scene car jack someone, tell them that they're the marathon bombers, and then leave a wake of explosives in their trail.
    And throw one of the bombs at the police as they escape, and happened to have had several IEDs in the house where they live, and... Yeah.


    Police are saying they are sending flash-bang grenades into the area to light it up (night has fallen here), and are reporting no movement.

    WBZ reports that the man was found using thermal imaging.
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BittyBug View Post
    They're not seeking to convict at this point, only apprehend, so proof isn't exactly needed. But you're right, maybe it's just coincidental that a few bombs were set off on Monday, and last night on Thursday, two guys who just happen to have been at the scene car jack someone, tell them that they're the marathon bombers, and then leave a wake of explosives in their trail.

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    Who has the best coverage? I hear network types trying to fill air without info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    Who has the best coverage? I hear network types trying to fill air without info.
    I prefer WCVB.com. They have 3 reporters on the ground and tend to be cautious about jumping to conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Playing devil's advocate here: Are these two really those who set up the bombs at the finish line? Their family does not believe it. What kind of proof can be given?

    Mistakes have been made in the past (e.g. Atlanta Olympics). What if these two are not the killers? (They did kill the MIT police officer however).
    I don't recall the falsely IDed gut at the Olympics throwing bombs at the police during a chase. I think it is fairly clear these are the right guys, and I'm sure the FBI will do further investigation to make sure no one else was involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    Who has the best coverage? I hear network types trying to fill air without info.
    The police scanner linked to, above, is helpful.

    The live stream on boston.com is helpful:
    http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_bl..._Copley_Square

    The Yahoo live stream has been of mixed usefulness, but more useful than places like CNN:
    http://news.yahoo.com/control-room/?vp=1


    A police negotiator has been called in. Police are reporting arms moving.

    Boat owner went outside to get fresh air. Noticed something a bit off. Got ladder to check it out. Unzipped cover, noticed blood, noticed what he thought was a body. Took off and called the police.
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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    Police are saying they are sending flash-bang grenades into the area to light it up (night has fallen here), and are reporting no movement.]
    British reporter on al jazeera this morning was saying he was likely waiting until dark to make ant moves. The man in the US had to remind her for us that was 10 hours away. Interesting they didn't find him until night.

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    There's movement. His arm is moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonfan View Post
    Assuming the guy who they carjacked is truthful, the brothers admitted they were the marathon bombers
    Again, playing devil's advocate:

    What if they said it just to scare him so he would give up the car?

    I do want to believe they are the real killers, but do we have indisputable proof that they did it? The video shows them walking and looking calm while others are running/in anquish, etc. That alone would convince me that they did it, but it is not like an eyewitness to the actual crime.

    I really believe they capture him alive. We need to know the truth- from him.

    It sounds like they did not plan this very well. They did not have an escape plan. They had a couple of days before they were found on the video.

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    The police are moving in formation toward the boat.
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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    I believe that Vash's question was more to the what kind of proof could be given to the family since they do not believe it? Which if the family does not believe it, I don't know that any amount of proof will convince them.
    But then only Vash can say what her question was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Again, playing devil's advocate:

    What if they said it just to scare him so he would give up the car?

    I do want to believe they are the real killers, but do we have indisputable proof that they did it? The video shows them walking and looking calm while others are running/in anquish, etc. That alone would convince me that they did it, but it is not like an eyewitness to the actual crime.
    The police have said they will not discuss the evidence they have. We know we don't have all the info now.
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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