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    Chan is scheduled to perform in his first Stars on Ice Canada tour from April 19 to May 10. I believe he's also scheduled to skate in 4 shows in Taiwan and China in June.
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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    Quote Originally Posted by overedge View Post
    I don't doubt that this is what he said, but how is participating in one competition in April 2013 going to interfere with his preparation for an event in early 2014?
    I guess April is the only time to get rest and refresh before the long and busy season. It would kill me if someone gives me extra task during my holidays against my will, knowing I have no other holiday for coming 10 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dardar1126 View Post
    At the very least he should have waited until after the competition had ended to voice these opinions. The timing is very bad. I can see where the Japanese people might feel quite offended.
    Not to mention the ISU and his own skating federation...yikes!
    Why should the Japanese people and skating federation feel offended? It is everybody's knowledge that most skaters would not have skated at WTT right after the Worlds if all have a choice especially those who competed in recent Worlds. Did they tell you that they are offended?

    He would have been asked regarding his performance hence he tells them why he skated poorly. If there is any fault with Patrick, it is his honesty and willingness to answer questions.
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    midori, thank you for being the reasonable Japanese here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjeaskategym View Post
    And after this competition is over tomorrow, there will be over two weeks left of April to rest.

    The complaining in this sport sometimes gets to be ridiculous. Other professional sports have far more grueling competitive schedules than this. Look at the NHL...They are playing 82 games a year, plus a playoff season. Obviously there are major differences between hockey and figure skating (and international traveling for skating is of course more grueling), but a hockey player would probably laugh at a figure skater complaining over having to compete 6 or 7 times a year. Look at MLB... They play over 160 games per year. Sure, it's not as grueling of a sport as skating and they don't have to do 4 minute long programs, but if they can handle a 162 game season (plus playoffs) without getting overly mentally fatigued, I think elite level figure skaters should be able to handle competing fewer than 10 times a year (plus whatever show commitments they have).

    Patrick is just making excuses for his poor performance here. He hasn't had the easiest of seasons, and his jumping is in a bit of disarray right now. I will give him a bit of a break because he clearly has a lot more pressure on him to deliver than most skaters do. It must be difficult for him to publicly explain his rough performances. Still, it would have been nice to wait until after the competition is over to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtherlore View Post
    Really? April is the PERFECT time for the top skaters to get some rest and recharged, even if it's not toward the Olympic season.
    The original post quotes Chan as saying "I wanted to prepare for the Olympics".

    I stand by my original point. Yes, April is a good time to rest and get recharged, but competing in one event in early April is not going to ruin anyone's readiness for an event that's nearly a year away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overedge View Post
    The original post quotes Chan as saying "I wanted to prepare for the Olympics".

    I stand by my original point. Yes, April is a good time to rest and get recharged, but competing in one event in early April is not going to ruin anyone's readiness for an event that's nearly a year away.
    Patrick has a list of shows on in April and June. He had some speaking commitments after his Worlds which did not give him enough time to rest in between Worlds and WTT. He intends to do a new LP the coming season. He may also have other commitments we are not aware of? With his commitments, he is unlikely to be able to sit down and plan his training and learn his new LP until after June. And because he is participating in WTT, he has to train for it. His body can only take so much. (He is not bionic like Plushenko. )
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    Ooooh, unless some serious takes place during the Pairs or Ladies today, it looks like we just might have this year's Sheldon Cooper Sportsmanship Award recipient.

    *****

    Dude (Dude being Patrick), what exactly is the problem with saying something along the lines of "My goal was to come here and skate lights-out, and as much as I wanted that to happen, I just wasn't on top of my game the way I planned to be. Sometimes things just don't fall into place -- all skaters experience this during the course of their competitive career, and unfortunately that was the case for me today."

    This claim that the top skaters from Canada had no choice but to go smacks of being utter bollocks. His assertion isn't exactly bolstered by the fact that Virtue and Moir opted not to compete without any repercussions (that any of us are aware of). He needs to find his nutsack, man up, and own the fact that he had a crappy competition this week instead of whining like a total pissant and blamestorming as to why he zambonied the ice.

    I could very well be wrong, but considering the copious number of splats in all disciplines the past two days, I don't think any other skaters have been holding a whiny pity-party about it.

    As for his comment, "I wanted to prepare for the Olympics," I have a sneaking suspicion that the translation Chanslation of that is actually "I want to split so I can spend quality time get nekkid with my GF .

    Last edited by Cyn; 04-13-2013 at 11:39 AM.

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    ^^ Dude, because he doesn't know how to double-talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spikydurian View Post
    ^^ Dude, because he doesn't know how to double-talk.
    It might not hurt for him to learn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjeaskategym View Post
    And after this competition is over tomorrow, there will be over two weeks left of April to rest.

    The complaining in this sport sometimes gets to be ridiculous. Other professional sports have far more grueling competitive schedules than this. Look at the NHL...They are playing 82 games a year, plus a playoff season. Obviously there are major differences between hockey and figure skating (and international traveling for skating is of course more grueling), but a hockey player would probably laugh at a figure skater complaining over having to compete 6 or 7 times a year. Look at MLB... They play over 160 games per year. Sure, it's not as grueling of a sport as skating and they don't have to do 4 minute long programs, but if they can handle a 162 game season (plus playoffs) without getting overly mentally fatigued, I think elite level figure skaters should be able to handle competing fewer than 10 times a year (plus whatever show commitments they have).

    Patrick is just making excuses for his poor performance here. He hasn't had the easiest of seasons, and his jumping is in a bit of disarray right now. I will give him a bit of a break because he clearly has a lot more pressure on him to deliver than most skaters do. It must be difficult for him to publicly explain his rough performances. Still, it would have been nice to wait until after the competition is over to complain.
    But elite figure skating is comparatively more taxing on the body and requires grueling training 5-6 days a week and for many of them I guess 50 weeks a year. AFAIK, elite skaters risk losing the feel even with a two-day break.

    I don’t agree other sports have longer season, either. After the Worlds, skaters (particularly top-level ones) have numerous show skating commitments and they should begin preparing for the next season by June as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    It might not hurt for him to learn...
    From you or Cyn?
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    I see Scott Moir has handed over the captain's responsibilities in their entirety

    Honestly, I understood the complaints back in 2009, when this was a new event and skaters really seemed to be caught by surprise by its existence and timing. That's no longer the case. Either manufacture an excuse not to go - it's not that hard - or play along. Although considering how Chan skated this season (results notwithstanding) I can understand why he'd want it to be over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spikydurian View Post
    From you or Cyn?
    If I knew him I'd give him my two cents.

    Seriously, wouldn't it be a good idea for SOMEONE to teach Patrick to be at least a tiny, little bit more PC? Complaining always comes across as sour grapes. And I like him.
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    Well, the timing of the event certainly didn't seem to effect Chan's teammate, Kevin Reynolds who has been attempting four quads all season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post
    I see Scott Moir has handed over the captain's responsibilities in their entirety
    Hee - that's what this (below) is referring to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Ooooh, unless some serious takes place during the Pairs or Ladies today, it looks like we just might have this year's Sheldon Cooper Sportsmanship Award recipient.
    *whistles innocently*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    Hee - that's what this (below) is referring to:

    *whistles innocently*
    I somehow missed that

    I'm almost tempted to make a list of all the skaters and things that Chan has taken offense with over the years. But not quite.
    Last edited by Zemgirl; 04-13-2013 at 08:55 AM.

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    Last edited by seabm7; 04-13-2013 at 08:56 AM. Reason: I realized my suggestion does not fit well into the situation.

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    Last edited by midori; 04-13-2013 at 09:12 AM. Reason: since the original post I responded was deleted.

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    Can anyone verify if this source is valid or the translation is true? The wording to me is suspect.

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