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    Quote Originally Posted by talulabell View Post
    I doubt we'll see Evan or Plushy before the Olympics (maybe Plush will do Euros, maybe Evan does Nationals?), but they most likely will not do any of the Grand Prix. Same with Yuna. I doubt V/M and D/W will want to meet before the GPF/4 Continents. My guess is Skate America will get D/W and Skate Canada will get V/M.
    Evan will have to skate at either a GP or Senior B to earn the minimum TES. Moreover, he has already stated that he wanted to compete in several events to earn ISU ranking points.

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    Another very happy metro Detroiter

    I've attended the marathon before as a spectator. I don't think it will be a big problem and I would bet that they change the route to accommodate SA. Even if they don't, the freeways will still be open and the Lodge Freeway dead-ends right into the Joe's very large parking garage. If you don't want to pay for parking there, you could use the Greektown Casino's free garage just off I-75 or find someplace by a People Mover station and take that right to the doors of the Joe avoiding any of the marathon route. Detroit can handle a lot of people and traffic.

    The biggest problem would be crossing the border on marathon day. That might be a nightmare! Do we know for sure if there will be competition on Sunday? I know the exhibition will be held that day.

    As others have mentioned, I'd book a hotel sooner rather than later. Do consider staying downtown. I know lots of you like to lobby chick at the official hotels but Dearborn is so boring. Treat yourself and stay at the Renn Cen Marriott or the Book Cadillac. Downtown Detroit will be a lot of fun that weekend with skating fans and marathoners!
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    Back in 97 when Skate America was in Detroit we stayed at the Marriott downtown and it was really nice to be so close to Joe Louis. Wish I could this year but I have a work obligation that conflicts with Skate Canada and Skate America. Oh well.

    People mover story: everyone was getting off at the hotel after the skating one night and with the crowd not everyone could get off on time and the door closed on myself and a very old lady with her hubby on the otherside. She started to cry as we pulled away. I had to calm her down saying that we just had to stay put and ride around for a complete loop again. Luckily she trusted me and viola, hubby was waiting for her when be made it around. My friends: at the hotel bar already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catherine M View Post
    People mover story: everyone was getting off at the hotel after the skating one night and with the crowd not everyone could get off on time and the door closed on myself and a very old lady with her hubby on the otherside. She started to cry as we pulled away. I had to calm her down saying that we just had to stay put and ride around for a complete loop again. Luckily she trusted me and viola, hubby was waiting for her when be made it around. My friends: at the hotel bar already!
    I remember that incident well. I've always felt lousy about laughing as the People Mover pulled away, although you were laughing, too. So, a mere 15 years later, I apologize.

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    If anyone's booking a room at either Doubletree, don't forget you can get a discount if you go through the USFSA's website. Just click on the Hilton logo at the bottom of the main page of usfsa.org.

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    I was looking at last years roster and many skaters won't have to travel, which would save the host a ton of money.
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    1 (Ashley WAGNER) USA 188.37 1 1
    2 Christina GAO USA 174.25 3 2
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    6 Gretchen DONLAN / Andrew SPEROFF USA 131.26 7 6
    7 Danielle MONTALBANO / Evgeni KRASNOPOLSKI ISR 119.02 6 7


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    For anyone else wondering and too lazy to google, the People Mover appears to be a monorail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allezfred View Post
    For anyone else wondering and too lazy to google, the People Mover appears to be a monorail.
    Thank you. I assumed it was, but glad to have it confirmed. Surprised that the doors just close automatically like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooke View Post
    Another very happy metro Detroiter
    As others have mentioned, I'd book a hotel sooner rather than later. Do consider staying downtown. I know lots of you like to lobby chick at the official hotels but Dearborn is so boring. Treat yourself and stay at the Renn Cen Marriott or the Book Cadillac. Downtown Detroit will be a lot of fun that weekend with skating fans and marathoners!
    What about the Crown plaza ?
    It's slightly cheaper than the other ones, And is right next to the rink

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    Quote Originally Posted by allezfred View Post
    For anyone else wondering and too lazy to google, the People Mover appears to be a monorail.
    Hate to be picky, but it's actually (elevated) light rail transit. The People Mover, the Skytrain in Vancouver, and a system in Kuala Lumpur are the only three LRT systems in the world using that particular technology. (And not because it's the best.....because it's really expensive, and everywhere else figured out cheaper ways to build the same thing )
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    OK, I wasnt too lazy...
    http://www.thepeoplemover.com/Station-Guide.id.3.htm
    There is an interactive map to show where the stations are.
    Below is a description. If I understand this, it is an unmanned monorail system that goes in one clockwise loop. The cars on the loop appear every 3-4 minutes at any station and stop for 20 seconds.
    You can ride the entire loop in 15 minutes. Am I correct? I am also assuming that if one is disabled and cant get out of the way of a door closing, there is some sort of emergency stop button.
    This looks like the hot set up to go back to the Doubletree/Holiday inn Express at night.

    The DTC fleet consists of twelve driverless vehicles that are fully automated and computer controlled. The vehicles are each powered by a linear induction motor that can provide a maximum velocity of 56 mph. Vehicles and stations (with the exception of Grand Circus Park - see below) are handicapped accessible and each vehicle has two wheelchair securement positions. Vehicles are also equipped with a climate control system that provides maximum passenger comfort from outside temperatures that can have a seasonal range from sub-zero to 100 plus degrees.

    People Mover fare is $.75 and can be paid by U.S. coins, People Mover tokens and by monthly, semi-annual, annual and special event passes. All stations are equipped with automatic turnstiles and disability accessible gates, with the exception of Grand Circus Park Station, which is stairway access, standard faregates only. Persons certified as disabled, Medicare card holders and the elderly are eligible for discounted (50%) passes and tokens.


    Normal weekday operating hours are 6:30 a.m. to Midnight, with an extension to 2 a.m. on Friday. Weekend hours are 9 a.m. to 2 a.m. on Saturday and Noon to Midnight on Sunday. Early openings and extensions of evening hours are provided to accommodate sports events, major conventions and other special events taking place in the Central Business District. Round trip on the system is approximately 15 minutes and headway ranges from 3 to 4 minutes. Average dwell at each station is 20 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladola View Post
    What about the Crown plaza ?
    It's slightly cheaper than the other ones, And is right next to the rink
    That's a new hotel, well, a new renovation of an old, abandoned building. I don't think it's open yet. Looks swanky. I bet it would be a good place.

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    Ahhh the People Mover. The history of this public work is a microcosm of the history of Detroit.

    I have to laugh that someone called it a monorail because of what happened when I was 12. While the People Mover was being built, and was already overdue and overbudget, we visited my grandparents in FL and went to a spring training Tigers game. Then mayor of Detroit Coleman Young was at the game and was introduced to the crowd. My mother, stood up and yelled, "Hey Coleman, did you see the people mover at Disneyworld?" Everyone laughed, it was hilarious and I know he totally heard her. They have a monorail at Disney But still, it was funny.

    I think the fact that this "light rail transit" was called "The People Mover" says a lot about how the Detroit metro region views public transport.
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    OK, I'll bite. Not knowing anything about the system, is this People mover considered a turkey by the locals? On the surface to us out-of-staters, it seems like a good idea. There appears to be quite a few books on Amazon about the death of Detroit and the corruption. Is the light rail part of that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coco View Post
    Ahhh the People Mover. The history of this public work is a microcosm of the history of Detroit.

    I have to laugh that someone called it a monorail because of what happened when I was 12. While the People Mover was being built, and was already overdue and overbudget, we visited my grandparents in FL and went to a spring training Tigers game. Then mayor of Detroit Coleman Young was at the game and was introduced to the crowd. My mother, stood up and yelled, "Hey Coleman, did you see the people mover at Disneyworld?" Everyone laughed, it was hilarious and I know he totally heard her. They have a monorail at Disney But still, it was funny.

    I think the fact that this "light rail transit" was called "The People Mover" says a lot about how the Detroit metro region views public transport.

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    Yes and no. It's public transportation that doesn't really go anywhere. I used to use it when I worked for an attorney and had to go from the circuit court to the federal court, and I have occasionally used it when going to a Red Wings game at the Joe, after having had dinner in Greektown. (This was back when Greektown was a vibrant, fun place to go -- before the casino killed it ). Most of the time I rode it there was only a few others in the car with me.

    As for corruption in Detroit, ever heard of Kwame Kilpatrick.

    (PS, I wasn't going to mention this because this is not a PI thread, but in response to your earlier post about the governor doing a hostile takeover of Detroit, the EFM is anything but - unless you subscribe to the hysteria of the unions and the race mongers. Detroit has been given every chance, by the state, local businesses and creditors, and their political body can't get their collective head out of their butt. The people who suffer are the poor people who live in the neighborhoods without decent street lioghts, with abandoned buildings housing drug operations, virtual police stations (which don't work), and firefighters with shabby, dangerous equipment. It simply isn't fair - while people like Kwame and Monica Conyers and the like get fat on public corruption. I hope to God that the EFM can help the city, but if they can't change their political culture, it will just be a matter of time until they're right back in the same situation. )

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    Dunno,

    Doesnt seem like that long of a walk for even slightly able people

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    There's beautiful riverfront walk that is fairly new.

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    If you stay in the area of the event, you should have no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8er1964 View Post
    Wheee!!!! Last time I was at the Joe for a figure skating event was the whack year. (I was there for dance, not ladies alas.)

    There's the Marriott at the Renaissance Center, which is pretty big and fairly close. You could walk, or take the People Mover (which only goes one way, so going there would be the whole loop, but getting back to the hotel would be very short). There's others - I've never stayed downtown so I am not familiar with the hotels - but most of them are probably somewhere near the People Mover.

    I would suspect that the Windsorites would just come over for the day - that's what we did when Skate Canada was in Windsor. Windsor and Detroit are really close to each other.
    My hubby and I stayed downtown Detroit last year for the grand prix.. we had an amazing time and stayed in a nice hotel/casino in greektown which is downtown.. actually we used to walk from hotel down to the renaissance center - not very far. Even if not staying in greektown it is def worth a vist, great atmosphere with fun bars and restaurants and really safe.. Now the rest of the downtown
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    Thanks! I know that I am completely ignorant of the situation there, both political and economic, as far as the causes, other than the feral govt sending millions of jobs overseas. Detroit simply doesnt make the news here, if there if a Kim Kardshian story to do.
    No, I have never heard of Kwame Kilpatrick, but if there is corruption, then it needs to be delt with harshly, IMHO. But who is more corrupt than those in the feral govt? I do have to wonder if perhaps Detroit is the cannary in the coal mine. Illinois is completely broke and beyond....how far is Michigan behind it? WDET-"January 7, 2013

    Officials say Michigan has a more than $1 billion dollar surplus left from the state’s 2012 budget. But even with that money the state may have a huge deficit in its 2013 budget. WDET’s Quinn Klinefelter talked about the situation with the state budget director – John Nixon."

    I appreciate hearing from any Detroiters on Restaurants they would go to in the area.

    Quote Originally Posted by sk8er1964 View Post
    Yes and no. It's public transportation that doesn't really go anywhere. I used to use it when I worked for an attorney and had to go from the circuit court to the federal court, and I have occasionally used it when going to a Red Wings game at the Joe, after having had dinner in Greektown. (This was back when Greektown was a vibrant, fun place to go -- before the casino killed it ). Most of the time I rode it there was only a few others in the car with me.

    As for corruption in Detroit, ever heard of Kwame Kilpatrick.

    (PS, I wasn't going to mention this because this is not a PI thread, but in response to your earlier post about the governor doing a hostile takeover of Detroit, the EFM is anything but - unless you subscribe to the hysteria of the unions and the race mongers. Detroit has been given every chance, by the state, local businesses and creditors, and their political body can't get their collective head out of their butt. The people who suffer are the poor people who live in the neighborhoods without decent street lioghts, with abandoned buildings housing drug operations, virtual police stations (which don't work), and firefighters with shabby, dangerous equipment. It simply isn't fair - while people like Kwame and Monica Conyers and the like get fat on public corruption. I hope to God that the EFM can help the city, but if they can't change their political culture, it will just be a matter of time until they're right back in the same situation. )
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