As for V/M fans telling D/W fans not to be upset when D/W lose, this is probably the wrong place to be making that kind of suggestion let alone putting it as a statement.
Crazy about sports!
I'm so sad. I feel really bad for Tessa and Scott right now. I mean when even your friends, who are supposed to be your "real friends" sell you out, what else can they do?
ETA: BTW does anybody know why the ISU has blocked the Italian version of Tessa and Scott's FD performance?
Last edited by Shayii; 04-03-2013 at 07:50 PM.
I agree with you completely about the training situation. Even if both teams were complete equals, D&W/V&M were still close and Marina's coaching method was more like that of Tamara Moskivina, I would still feel the same way. The stress and friction present just is not good for either team. And it would be hard even for a coach trying not to play favorites to truly present and talk up both teams to the press and public.
And yes. The rules seem much stricter for V&M than D&W. They have to be at 1000% on the ice at all times to get the marks. They aren't allow even the slightest bobble.
I wasn't referring to your post when I spoke about the stops; I'm sorry if it came across that way. I was just rambling, trying to get everything I was thinking down before it left my head. I had been watching programs from K&O's heyday and some of the top FD's from the quad that ended with the Vancouver Olympics. It occurred to me how many of the FD's had stops in them; even the very top teams. It's probably near impossible to have a FD that never stops moving from the time the music starts to the ending pose. It just made me realize just what Tessa and Scott accomplished and appreciate it all over again.
Disagreeing does not mean there is a judging scandal. Even when my favorites don't win I can see how the other deserved to win. Unless someone is going to open an investigation, it's over.
Last edited by leafygreens; 04-03-2013 at 09:20 PM.
Iknow, what you will answer, so - in V-M case its really nothing to lose. Especially with worst lines compare to best ever, so we could be now crazy
They have to? As long as their marks are within the corridor I don't think they really get questioned.Like the audience, a judge could personally prefer a 10th place team, but they have to score what gets put down on the ice as the winner.
I'd like to point out that Joannie actually said that DW's program and lifts were less creative and more safe. She said their program is more conventional and what the judges are used to seeing. So basically she said all the same things that we complain about in DW, but in a more subtle way. I don't see it as being negative towards VM. As a spokesperson for a national organization, she can't really speak whatever her true opinion may be. To acknowledge a loss in a fair light, I think that's just her being Canadian.
Leafygreens, what are you talking about? What commentator? I was referencing Marina's article!! And what exactly are you trying to do anyways because I'm pretty sure you despise V/M.
And I have to say I agree with Gerbil pezazz. While its nice not to lose hope completely, we need to be realistic.