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    Quote Originally Posted by caseyedwards View Post
    The Russian fed has to make sure sotnikova and tuktamsheva have a great chance to make the gpf or be an alternate and they shouldn't put radionova up for a gp. In fact a host pick for cor Should be makarova.
    Why should they do that? Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva are good themselves and there is no point in shielding them from competition. That wouldn't help them long term.

    And put Makarova for their host pick? I don't think she deserves it after having seriously bad results for two consecutive seasons. What would that achieve? That's like USA giving this year's host pick to Rachel Flat. It won't happen. My guess would be that Gosviani gets the host pick. She won't be threat to either of the Russian ladies who will be competing at that GP event, but still will produce decent result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    That's like USA giving this year's host pick to Rachel Flat.
    More like to Alissa Czisny

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    To be fair to Alissa, she had a very strong season 2010-11, winning 1st and 3rd at GP, winning GPF, 5th at worlds. Her season 2011-12 wasn't so good, but she still got to the GPF so even that still could be considered pretty decent. It was only the last few competitions of that seasons she started struggling (e.g. the worlds) and then she was the whole season 2012-13 off because of injury. In comparison, Makarova had last two seasons pretty bad. So one can argue that Czisny would actually deserve the host pick more than Makarova (if they were from the same country and someone was deciding to who to give it to).

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    I actually think Makarova has had steady results. She hasn't been great but she rarely melted down. Plus she got top ten every time she went to worlds or Olympics.

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    As long as being seeded once qualifies a skater for "Comeback" status regardless of subsequent results at Worlds, Czisny will get at least one without Skate America. (Her old PB will place her top 24 SB.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlai View Post
    I actually think Makarova has had steady results. She hasn't been great but she rarely melted down. Plus she got top ten every time she went to worlds or Olympics.
    Steady results? Did you watch her last two seasons at all? Consistently bad results, more likely.
    Season 2011-2012 5th and 7th at GP, 6th at Europeans and 9th at worlds. (it wasn't thanks to her that Russia kept three spots that year!)
    Season 2012-2013 6th and 7th at GP. 8th at Russian nationals. Not sent to Europeans and Worlds.

    How you put it, top 10 at Worlds sounds great, but if you needed to earn or keep 3 spots, it would make it very difficult for the other skater to have the total placement together 13 or less.

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    I didn't say Makarova has had great results, but if the issue was comparing Makarova vs. Czisny... Makarova has had steadier results IMHO. She may not be medalling in Euro or gp, but she hasn't had a meltdown at the biggest competitions. I consider top ten every worlds or Olympics steady results, and she did help earn 3 spots in 2011 and 2012, and in 2012 did way better than the promising upcomer Polina K at worlds. Her 8th at 2010 worlds was the higher finish of the two Russian ladies. It's Czisny who has more ups and downs.

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    Makarova's placements at Euros and Czisny's at 4C's are almost identical. At Worlds, Czisny had one placement higher than Makarova's -- 5th to Makarova's 7th -- but also three results out of the Top 10 in which she was the second-ranked US skater and did not help gain/retain three spots. Of Makarova's three finishes, all in the Top 10, in her first, she was the highest-placing Russian lady, and in the other two, her placement with Leonova's gained and retained three spots for Russian ladies, which the highly-touted and talented Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva did not last season.

    Makarova's ninth at 2012 Worlds did help retain three spots for Russia at 2013 Worlds: Russia #3, Korobeynikova placed 19th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    I disagree. Radionova dominated the JGP last season and has nothing to gain by going back. The Russian Fed has to think about Radionova's development also, not just giving Sotnikova/Tuktamysheva/Lipnitskaia a better chance at making the final.

    On another note, I really hope Gosviani gets COR since that's probably her only chance of getting on the GP.
    The final isn't just about the final it's about maintaining image and presence! Who would Russia want more in the final sotnikova or radionova? Maybe they will put radionova as a way to block non Russians as well even if she would wind up blocking an eligible Russian skater she might block and eligible American or Japanese skater. Radionova would get senior experience and block someone from being in "the final" against Kim Yuna and Mao asada and kostner!

    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    Why should they do that? Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva are good themselves and there is no point in shielding them from competition. That wouldn't help them long term.

    And put Makarova for their host pick? I don't think she deserves it after having seriously bad results for two consecutive seasons. What would that achieve? That's like USA giving this year's host pick to Rachel Flat. It won't happen. My guess would be that Gosviani gets the host pick. She won't be threat to either of the Russian ladies who will be competing at that GP event, but still will produce decent result.
    I don't believe in shielding the eligible Russians from competition just competition from ineligible Russians in the Olympic season. But may e radionova could be useful if she made the gpf or just by participating took away points from Americans or Japanese skaters because it looks like radionova would be really good like when. Tuktamisheva and lipnitskaia debuted.

    I agree gosviani could accomplish the same thing as makarova but be a little better and reward someone who had a good skate at 2013 Russian nationals.

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    Were Radionova to knock one of the other Russian ladies out of GPF, the Russian Fed would know behind which skater to put its politik in Sochi.
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    Figureskating-online.com is happy to announce that we will start publishing short video interviews with skaters. Here is the first one, with World Junior Ice Dance Champions Alexandra Stepanova/Ivan Bukin: http://www.figureskating-online.com/...ova-bukin.html
    The interview is in Russian, but a written translation is provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eislauffan View Post
    Figureskating-online.com is happy to announce that we will start publishing short video interviews with skaters. Here is the first one, with World Junior Ice Dance Champions Alexandra Stepanova/Ivan Bukin: http://www.figureskating-online.com/...ova-bukin.html
    The interview is in Russian, but a written translation is provided.
    Thank you! I love them!!!

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    Video interview No. 2 on figureskating-online.com, with Adelina Sotnikova:
    http://www.figureskating-online.com/...sotnikova.html

    (in Russian, with written translation)

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    Thanks a lot!! The rink where Stepanova/Bukin train is really beautiful.
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    It's the firt time I see Adelina in an interview, thanks a lot Eislauffen!

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    Sasha is beautiful; I can't believe how big she is already.

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    http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-s...149133957.html
    Tuktamisheva will be working with Jeff Buttle
    Her SP is Latin American themed.

    WARNING: According to Vagabond there is softcore porn in here that is VERY VERY OFFENSIVE!!!

    So here is the text from the article if you don't have ad-block.
    Елизавета Туктамышева: «Баттл будет ставить мне обе программы»
    Российская фигуристка Елизавета Туктамышева сообщила, что над постановкой новых программ будет работать с бывшим канадским фигуристом Джеффри Баттлом.

    – Над программами уже успели поработать?

    – На короткую программу есть замыслы из латиноамериканской музыки, а на произвольную пока не придумали. В общем, пока все очень сыро, есть только какие-то наброски и до окончательного результата еще очень далеко.

    – Кто в этом сезоне будет ставить вам программы?

    – К нам на сборы приедет известный канадский фигурист Джеффри Баттл – и именно он будет ставить мне обе программы на олимпийский сезон. Его в этом сезоне решил привлечь к сотрудничеству мой тренер Алексей Мишин. Я с Джеффри еще лично не знакома, но отзывы о нем хорошие, – рассказала Туктамышева в интервью TEAM RUSSIA-2014.
    Last edited by Macassar88; 05-21-2013 at 07:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
    http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-s...149133957.html
    Tuktamisheva will be working with Jeff Buttle
    Her SP is Latin American themed.
    Yes! Many thanks for the info.
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    Macassar88, would you please stop posting links to sites with softcore porn ads? I have asked you before, but you persist.

    If I wanted to look at such ads, I would *not* be looking for them on FSU.

    I find your total disregard of other people's sensitivities extremely offensive.
    Last edited by Vagabond; 05-21-2013 at 08:51 PM.

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