Regarding estimations how long it takes the skater to try until one video is good enough to be published mentioned earlier on – I assume when skaters do such attempts in front of the camera, they already have certain consistency on them in practice, maybe quite far away from a consistency required to include those elements in competition, but still. I don’t think any elite skater can afford to lose hours or even days of valuable practice time with endless trying totally instable jumps just for one happening to be filmed. When they decide to film during a practice session, there should be quite some probability that they’ll record a good attempt.
Menshov’s Video by the way looks like if had been filmed during one practice session (not only is he in the same practice clothes, also people around him look like the same), the same seems to be the case for Maxim Trankov’s clips.
The skaters practice the hard combinations, because after they can land easily in the simpler jumps and combinations. They didn't practice, because they want to boast of it on Youtube. What a weird thought!!!!
God, I love this sport, and cannot WAIT for next season. Is it October yet??
I feel a little bad for Kovtun and a lot bad for Gatchinski. There is too much pressure on them at such a young age. Last season Kovtun was some nobody coached by Morozov. Then add a quad and Tarasova as a coach and some good results on the JGP and it's all this hype and pressure. Kovtun actually did really well on the junior circuit, and judging from his FS at Worlds, stamina was a big issue and a 30 second shorter program could have made a big difference. After the JGPF, he said he hoped to compete at Europeans, and then wanted to go to JW and try to win to cap off his junior career on a high note. Farris and Brown were really strong at JW, so perhaps Kovtun may not have won, but he definitely would have had a decent chance to win, and very likely would have at least gotten a bronze medal which is a good accomplishment and nothing to sneeze at, but instead he gets sent to Worlds, chokes under the pressure and winds up 17th. So now Fed is either pissed at him, skeptical, or considering him done like they did with Gatchinski last year.
I think both Kovtun and Gatchinski have tremendous potential and I don't think it was that huge of a deal that Kovtun was sent to Euros after the fall season he had, they wanted to see how he'd fair in seniors, and he did well, was the top placing Russian, but he didn't medal and wasn't phenomenal and beating Voronov was not that big of a victory considering Voronov has never done very well internationally and didn't skate particularly well at Euros. So if his Euros performance was on the cusp of deserving Worlds, they should have had him compete at the Russian Cup Final, or at least Junior Nationals to see what kind of form he was in. If he skated brilliantly at one or two of those competitions and beat Menshov at the Russian Cup Final, then okay, I can kind of see sending him to Worlds and if the same result happened well then it's just nerves or a bad day. But he didn't compete at all after Euros and even not skating so well he would have definitely been the top JW member if he had just been named to that team like he probably should have. Then with a medal he could have boosted his WS and ended his season on a high note giving him some buzz as a good possibility for being the Sochi team member if Plush can't go but instead he's on the scrap heap with Gatchinski and Voronov and it all looks very doom and gloom, and noone even knows about Menshov at this point because he didn't get to compete at Euros or Worlds. Really it was a bit shortsighted.
thanks for the clip with Mishin and Gachinski ...
Lol ... I love Mishin!! he's one of a kind
Am starting to like Gachinski ... he's developing as a skater. hope that he can stay till 2018! (Sochi will be difficult for him ...)
And I agree with pinky's post above .... Sigh ... Russian federation always gives tremendous, unrealistic pressure on the skaters ... and dumps them or puts them in the refridgerator (if you understand my analogy .... sorry it's what we say in Hong Kong) the moment they fail to deliver. It's quite tragic
I think Gachinski is quite responsive to music when he's not jumping -- his circular step sequences last season were some of the highlights for me -- but I don't hear many people compare him favorably to either icon.
The piece is seventy-five minutes long...[l]ong enough for an idea to be developed, but not so long that one starts to measure the number of seats to the exits with desperation if the thing doesn’t work" -- Marina Harss
Gachinski is actually a quite good example that this type of hype created by a coach isn`t helpful for a skater.
Sorry this is off topic but when will we know if Stepanova/Bukin have decided to stay in junior or go to senior ? Thanks.
St Louis Blues from the 2011-2012 season and The Bolt from his Senior debut. He does have a personality, and sometimes it shows on the ice. I'd like to see it more often.
Sometimes I do wish the coaches would just hush and let the skaters get on with it. I can see what they're trying to do sometimes - for example, around about Russian Nationals time Mishin talked about how this season was not important because his focus was on Gachinski fulfilling his Olympic champion potential the next season - that, I think, was supposed to be a confidence booster, a sort of "I know you're having a rough season but I still believe in you" and yet, it all contributes to the pressure.
Last edited by misskarne; 04-10-2013 at 02:06 PM. Reason: now with videos :)