View Poll Results: Who will make the team

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  • Julia Lipnitskaya

    127 66.84%
  • Nikol Gosviyani

    16 8.42%
  • Alena Leonova

    20 10.53%
  • Ksenia Makarova

    1 0.53%
  • Elizaveta Tuktamysheva

    118 62.11%
  • Anna Pogorilaya

    45 23.68%
  • Adelina Sotnikova

    100 52.63%
  • The Polinas

    7 3.68%
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    Russian Ladies for Sochi

    Only 2 Spots !!

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    Tuktamysheva and Lipnitskaya are my picks. The RSF will choose one of Tuktamysheva or Sotnikova (or who knows, maybe even both) to punish for not keeping 3 spots, and we wont know who that is for awhile yet. Either way if Lipnitskaya gets over her current injuries and skates to her potential she isnt going to miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgejudy27 View Post
    Tuktamysheva and Lipnitskaya are my picks. The RSF will choose one of Tuktamysheva or Sotnikova (or who knows, maybe even both) to punish for not keeping 3 spots, and we wont know who that is for awhile yet. Either way if Lipnitskaya gets over her current injuries and skates to her potential she isnt going to miss it.
    more likely its Leonova who will be punished imo

    Tuk, Lip and Adelina have equal chances of making the Team but one of them will be left out
    If Julia recovers fully next Season, I agree she might make the Team

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    Julia has never been to Worlds, so I don't think they'll risk it (they would if they had 3, but not if there's only 2). A lot will depend on how they skate on the GP.

    Liza really did nothing wrong at Worlds. SP was excellent until she had a freak fall on a spin, something that even happened to Amodio who's a great spinner. I think that spooked her and caused the single axel. LP was pretty flawless except she didn't do 3-3. It's unfortunate she ended up behind Adelina yet again. She has the better nerves. She just didn't get the marks she would've gotten had she skated in a later group.

    Adelina will probably make it if she skates at all decently because she has TAT on her side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub721 View Post
    Adelina will probably make it if she skates at all decently because she has TAT on her side.
    I agree with all of your thoughts, but especially this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_skate2011 View Post
    more likely its Leonova who will be punished imo
    Well I didnt even mention her since I think she is right out of it. After a year of totally bombing out everywhere, and all the young Russians coming up, she is toast. She could have regained some credence for herself with a good Worlds (and had she been the one to finish really high and regain the Russians 3 spots almost by herself, she would have been a hero and had a huge shot at the team next year) but instead she had a miserable one and was the lowest placing of 3 dissapointing Russians. She ended her own amateur career for all intents and purposes this season. Every other skater on the list is more likely to make the team than her, minus Makarova of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub721 View Post
    Julia has never been to Worlds, so I don't think they'll risk it (they would if they had 3, but not if there's only 2). A lot will depend on how they skate on the GP.

    Liza really did nothing wrong at Worlds. SP was excellent until she had a freak fall on a spin, something that even happened to Amodio who's a great spinner. I think that spooked her and caused the single axel. LP was pretty flawless except she didn't do 3-3. It's unfortunate she ended up behind Adelina yet again. She has the better nerves. She just didn't get the marks she would've gotten had she skated in a later group.

    Adelina will probably make it if she skates at all decently because she has TAT on her side.
    yeah but I didn't really made a difference going to Worlds ? their results are very much equal
    the important decider will be the coming GP Season and wasn't Julia injured ?, the three have equal chance imo

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    It's between Adelina, Liza, and Julia. I suspect their respective GP performances will have something to do with who ultimately gets to go. Julia is maybe at the biggest disadvantage where she hasn't competed at Worlds yet and didn't have the best of results this season, and may still be affected by injuries and growing pains in the coming season. I would have liked to see Pogorilaya get to go but that won't happen with just 2 spots, but she's young anyways, and maybe they will send her out on senior GP next season for the experience anyhow.

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    Julia is going through a growth spurt and those tiny jumps might disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    Julia is going through a growth spurt and those tiny jumps might disappear.
    but she still won a junior silver medal going through her puberty and she didn't get underrotations on her jumps, so there is still promise for Julia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub721 View Post

    Adelina will probably make it if she skates at all decently because she has TAT on her side.
    Lets not act like Adelina is being held up by TAT. She has now beaten Liza in two back to back international events. They are both very close, beyond which Mishin is hardly a pauper in the politiks department.
    Last edited by Mayra; 03-17-2013 at 09:43 PM. Reason: Popper ;)

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    A LOT can happen in 12 months but judging on where their skating is right now, they would be NUTS to take anyone but Sotnikova & Tuktamysheva. These two are the ones hyped for years, the ones the judges will be most familiar with and the ones who are starting to produce more mature skating that the judges could be inclined to run with in a situation where one of them skates lights out if the faves faulter. Lipnitskaya has a year to sort it out but she has a HELL of a lot of work to do if she wants to be in with a chance of making the team. Her jumps are crumbling as she grows and the technique and skating quality is nowhere near the other two girls. Gumbiness and seeming deafness to music can only get you so far.

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    Tuk or Sot could be replaced with Lip, but I'm guessing those are the only 3 in consideration. I love Korobeynikova but she may need a new coach that can get her to stop being such a headcase (and boring) and I like Pogo too but I highly doubt the Fed would give one of it's highly coveted home Olympic spots to a 15 year old with minimal experience, even if she does next season.

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    I wish the Rus Fed would implement a point system and announce it in advance: GP medals, making GPF, GPF medals, Nationals medals, Euro medals, etc will get points and whichever two had the best season after Euros will go to Sochi.

    The more important pick I think is who is the leader of the 2 Russian girls heading into Sochi because she gets to compete at the team event and fight for a team medal. Keep in mind they are all pretty even at this point, with Sot and Tuk slightly ahead on senior experience. This can easiy change next season if Lip wins Euros (for example).

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    I hadnt thought about that but for all these skaters from top countries it is hugely important not only to make the Oly team but be the #1, so you have a shot at a team medal. The Russian ladies are a good example of this as for any of Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, or Lipnitskaya winning an individual medal in Sochi is a huge long shot, but a team medal could be won by whichever gets to compete in it, if they can contribute a strong performance.

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    Both girls can skate in the team, hopefully. As of right now, I would say Sot for SP, Tuk for LP.

    They can only switch skaters out in two disciplines.

    They definitely can't for men, as they only have one entry. We'll see what happens with dance, but as of right now, I would not rely on I&K in the team event (shame, because it would be good for them to get a taste of the Olympics before the dance event). V&T are the best shot if they want a gold in team, but they might not want to do a full competition prior to the pairs event... Max is super patriotic though and they're pretty consistent, so they might.

    Actually what I said of I&K is true for the girls as well. Neither has skated at an Olympics. The Russian crowds are really noisy. I&K couldn't hear their FD music in Moscow. So if possible, it would be best to let both girls skate in the team event, so they can experience that pressure before their solo turns.

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    Unless one (or both) of them has an injury, I think Liza and Adelina have the inside track on this. Julia has never competed at senior worlds, and for Leonova to make the team of two, 5-6 Russian ladies will have to be injured. Sorry, I actually like Alena but I was not at all impressed with her this year. I think she may be on the way out at this point, like Makarova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub721 View Post
    Both girls can skate in the team, hopefully. As of right now, I would say Sot for SP, Tuk for LP.

    They can only switch skaters out in two disciplines.

    They definitely can't for men, as they only have one entry. We'll see what happens with dance, but as of right now, I would not rely on I&K in the team event (shame, because it would be good for them to get a taste of the Olympics before the dance event). V&T are the best shot if they want a gold in team, but they might not want to do a full competition prior to the pairs event... Max is super patriotic though and they're pretty consistent, so they might.

    Actually what I said of I&K is true for the girls as well. Neither has skated at an Olympics. The Russian crowds are really noisy. I&K couldn't hear their FD music in Moscow. So if possible, it would be best to let both girls skate in the team event, so they can experience that pressure before their solo turns.
    V&T would want to win 2 medals so I am sure they will do the team event. If they can switch skaters out in 2 disciplines than I agree with will give both ladies a program, and if I&K have a good year maybe give both them and B&S a program too to give B&S some rest for the individual event but still keeping them eligible for a medal.

    Not to sound pro Canadian but I am honestly pretty sure Canada is winning the team event. Even if we win no individual golds in Sochi, we still will win the team event. No country can match our depth across the various events right now. Our weak link is Omsond and she is capable of a top 5 or 6 finish in the individual event on a good day, and she is young and will only get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub721 View Post
    Both girls can skate in the team, hopefully. As of right now, I would say Sot for SP, Tuk for LP.
    I thought the team event at the Olympics is going to have 1 woman, 1 man, 1 pair and 1 dance couple?

    If Lipnitskaya doesn't really make any waves during the GP and Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva have decent showings, then I'd say those 2 will go to Sochi and Worlds.

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    I was gutted for Alena. I thought she should have stayed with this season's free programe rather than go back to last years. It's almost like telling the judges you have no form.
    I thought Elizaveta was so undermarked in her free skate. I would have had her & the chinese girl way above Gracie who now seems to be the-can-do-no-wrong girl for the judges.
    It's so sad that Makarova has very little hope of making Sochi. Of all the Russian girls I enjoy watching her the most.

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