View Poll Results: Does Patrick Chan need a different primary coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8ingcoach View Post
    Patrick absolutely needs a primary technical coach that he learns from every day. This last year in Colorado he was only having lessons from Eddie Shipstad probably 2 or 3 times a week. I think it will be good for him to move. The reason he doesn't like Colorado Springs anymore is because everyone dislikes him because he acts like an asshole while at the rink. He acts like he owns every session, even when there are plenty of other top skaters training ( max arron, josh farris, agnes zawadzki ). There have been numerous tantrums when skaters get in his way, and there have been occasions when he has skated over coaches as well. After a few weeks in Detroit everyone will realize how much of an asshole he can be.
    Really? He didn't say he doesn't like Colorado Springs as far as I can read from his interviews. He is still deciding. Your comments clearly contradict those who are friends with Patrick. We may never know all the reasons why he may contemplate moving to Detroit but it certainly makes sense since it's closer to Toronto. Is it uncommon for skaters to move their training base? Let others judge for themselves whether he is truly an asshole like you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clytie View Post
    Patrick has also said in an interview he would never use a sports psychologist. He said Mr.Coulson told him if you needed to go that route you may as well hang up your skates, and Patrick is following his advice.
    I'm certain Mr. Coulson also intended for him to have a compulsory figure era figure skating coach that produced an Olympic Champion, and intended Patrick to be fully equipt to go the route of dressing perfectly for breakfast, dressing perfectly for lunch, dressing perfectly for dinner, not the route of "The Emperor has No Clothes".
    Last edited by bardtoob; 03-17-2013 at 05:58 PM.
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    Coulson died at age 80. Not surprising that someone of his generation, born in 1916, might disregard psychology. Patrick should take that advice with an entire container of salt.

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    [QUOTE=Triple Axel;3876445]Alexei Yagudin and Evgeni Plushenko used to skate multiple quad programs in their sleep..and they LANDED their other jumps, too. And talk about skating skills!! For footwork, Chan had NOTHING on Yagudin (See 2002 Olympic short OR long programs for a clinic on footwork and artistry, as well as jumps!!)Couldn't have said it better myself. Yagudin like you said had great footwork even though in the 6.0 system it didn't mean as much as it does now. Plus he landed most of his jumps and he never won a World Championship skating as sloppy as Chan did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    Alexei Yagudin and Evgeni Plushenko used to skate multiple quad programs in their sleep..and they LANDED their other jumps, too. And talk about skating skills!! For footwork, Chan had NOTHING on Yagudin (See 2002 Olympic short OR long programs for a clinic on footwork and artistry.
    I am a Yagudin fan but I have to disagree with you that Yagudin was on par with Chan on skating skills and intricacy/variety of footwork. In fact, a lot other skaters have done quite more difficult step sequences since the CoP was introduced than Yagudin did in his entire competitive career.

    Plus he landed most of his jumps and he never won a World Championship skating as sloppy as Chan did.
    Just rewatch Yagudin's free skate at the 2000 Worlds where he took the gold medal. He was really lucky to win that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDilemma View Post
    Coulson died at age 80. Not surprising that someone of his generation, born in 1916, might disregard psychology. Patrick should take that advice with an entire container of salt.
    Mr. Coulson might have also been misunderstood.
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