great siggie line
great siggie line
It is quite easy and convenient to hide behind a computer and insult skating technique/appearance/anything else that comes to their mind. I feel sorry for those who do this because that is all they have to look forward to in their pitiful world.
Meryl and Charlie have accomplished more on and off the ice, in their young lives than these couch potato experts ever will in all their combined lifetimes put together. NO ONE can take that away from them.
NBC has some skating coverage today.
Last edited by mollymgr; 03-23-2013 at 04:45 PM.
Having just tried on some ballet costumes for a showcase in ballroom, I agree--the first Sylvia dress (with the flat skirt) could work, but when you're skating close to a partner a tutu, especially the stiff "Russian" style is just going to get in the way and close body contact with your partner crunches it down. I discovered quickly that tulle, even long, doesn't move big, and in skating you need something that just FLIES.
I'm just not into sticking ballet in ice dance (or really skating at all as in the other disciplines it's done to DEATH, and besides ballet is BALLET, it's about...well, it's about movements that you can achieve with ballet technique on a floor, it just seems like skaters copying ballet otherwise.) And I don't know about GRAND, unless the judges just reward 'deep' music, as much as they need something that just feels like THEM. Whatever they pick needs to speak to them, first and foremost. You can tell when someone/a couple genuinely loves what they're skating to. Grand or light or fun or whatever I hope they go for something that just makes them go "Yes!"
U.S. TV reminder: NBC's Worlds recap is today, noon-2 pm Eastern.
ETA: Their free dance is being shown just before/around 1 pm.
Last edited by Sylvia; 03-23-2013 at 06:02 PM.
"Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden
While Ballet isn't inherently a partner dance. A pas de deux is a regular part of any show. Many folk dances aren't inherently partner based, yet we now welcome their inclusion in ice dance.
As for is being over done...if you feel it is that is fine, but I don't.
I'm not sure what all this hubbub over costumes is about. Costumes are always modified for whatever discipline interprets it. When ballets do operas, no one suggests they wear the original heavy opera costume. If D/W did a ballet there are many softer flexible materials she could use to mimic tulle. Or she could skip the tulle and go with a straight skirt and still keep a ballet bodice. It reminds me of a few of those obnoxious comments that said Meryl's Indian costume wasn't a good depiction of traditional dress because it was too short.
I don't think a particular style should be automatically awarded over another, but it sounds to me as if some would like to see a certain style and think only M/C can handle it. It would speak to their abilities and make an impact. That isn't quite the same thing.
Last edited by Jessiebanana; 03-23-2013 at 06:26 PM.
I understand being smart, but, at the same time, if being smart means that skaters can't really do something new and experiment, then I don't like that kind of smart. For me stepping up means exactly pushing the boundaries and showing (in this case) to the skating world new ways how it can be done. And who else to do it if not the top skaters?Davis and White planned and skated SMARTLY. They played up their strengths, worked on their weaknesses and made changes here and there along the way--nothing too disruptive but just minor tweaks. That's not being "safe", that's being smart. That's what a competitor does. At the end of the day, ice dancing is a sport. If ice dancing wants to be taken seriously, then the teams need to step up, realize that this is a sport (with an artistic blend) and skate not just necessarily harder but smarter.
Thank you , but that was actually NHK ^^;
After listening to Mirai's interview in Japanese, i thought i heard her say something to the extent of, "Admire Meryl's stlye"... Not sure if thats translated correctly. But wow everyone seems to like Meryl's style these days hehe
Speaking of style, Does anyone have pictures of MC at the banquet?
All those cute pictures makes me want to rewatch their SD. The YP was just made for them.
They were marked lower for their steps (which were pretty standard, just as D&W's steps are pretty standard), which didn't have the clean sureness of their Mahler program, for example. And D&W were somewhat faster in the steps, too. D&W scored higher for both step sequences.
Their least creative element (as their program is currently structured) was their spin, and they scored less than D&W in that element, not too surprisingly, since V&M's spin does not have a creative or difficult entry & D&W's does.
STEPS Type score Type score V&M Circular 8.50 Diagonal 8.36 D&W Circular 8.79 Diagonal 8.64
spin Lifts step twizzles Total D&W 6.36 22.64 8.50 7.21 Total V&M 6.14 22.64 16.86 7.21
The twizzles are an interesting case. The judges clearly noted that D&W's FD twizzles were not as good as their SD twizzles, which got a perfoct score:
Twizzles Score GOE Score GOE D&W SD 7.50 1.50 FD 7.21 1.21 V&M SD 5.57 0.57 FD 7.21 1.21
If you watched the RAIsport coverage of FD on youtube channel LaRiservaISUMondiali
you might get as big a kick out of this comment as I do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2auou58sUa0LaRiservaISUMondiali 6 days ago
Meryl and Charlie I LOVE you!!!!!! You are angels for me. So so happy your deserved Gold Medal. Come to Italy! or, if you want, come and "see" us in Riserva Forum. We'd be honoured! Hughs & Kisses
I hope Meryl & Charlie take them up on it, and come see them in the "Riserva Forum"
The web address from youtube for them is
I wasn't only addressing your question lauravvv, but the general thought that that V&M were punished by the judges for being creative, and the marks do not tell that story, IMO.
I agree. It's not just what the skaters do, but how they do them.
Yer a wizard, Charlie.