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    Bechke and Petrov - World Pros mystery

    So I had been under the impression that B&P only won the world pros in 1996. Yet in this clip from the Jefferson Pilot Pro in 1998 (and also at the 1999 World Pros, where they finished 2nd) they they are introduced as "two-time world professional pair champions." Am I missing something? Did they win once before 1996?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_nR-weWfJ8

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    Also, any ideas as to what goes wrong with the lift at 3:20? I can't tell if it's him or her.

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    According to this wikipedia article, they only won once, in 1996. I think, though, there were other events around that also used the words World and Professional, so maybe the reference is to that.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_P..._Championships

    More importantly, thanks for the opportunity to say how much I enjoyed this pair.

    During their eligible careers they were overshadowed by two great Russian pairs, but they really came into their own skating for SOI. I especially appreciated that at least one of their tour numbers was usually choreographed much like an eligible program, including jumping elements. They didn't resort to headbangers and Detroiters to make their programs interesting, relying instead on more difficult competitive elements like throw triple jumps. I always esp liked the single and double SBS jumps they seemed often to include during or at the end of a footwork sequence.

    In the beginning, there weren't the reason I bought the SOI ticket, but year after year, they turned out to be a highlight of the show for me.

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    They were my favorite pairs skaters ever. I recall going to a SOI performance only because they were in the show. They had the most interesting and complex lifts.

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    I liked them a lot. They unfairly lost a world pro title to Kovarikova-Novotny. K&N stmbled near the lights around the rink and Radka was very distracted after that. The judges allowed them to reskate the program and they skated clean the second time. B&P should have won this time, They won the following year. I have a feeling that they won one more world pro but can't remember which one. Toward the end of their pro career they were almost unbeatable, skating cleanly and creatively every time.

    My favorite programs of theirs:

    You don't bring me flowers
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-zFJfE8Hg

    Romance
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSbd97FhSz8

    Spartacus
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYJviebbVY0

    Ice storm (by Sviridov)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGViqdnbiGA

    Verdi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTA-at8bSec

    Samson & Delilah
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK-WlFBKolo

    Czardas
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29oUEELN6Lg

    I am sure there are more
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    These programs were so creative that they held your attention every moment. Compare that to the deadly dull crop of programs we see under CoP. It's no wonder interest in pairs has waned lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euterpe View Post
    These programs were so creative that they held your attention every moment. Compare that to the deadly dull crop of programs we see under CoP. It's no wonder interest in pairs has waned lately.
    They performed really lovely programs as professionals for sure. Dennis had AMAZING posture. Rivaling (better than?) Sergei's in my opinion.

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    Totally agree about Denis' posture. It is RIDICULOUS.

    Also, this is one of my favourite programs of theirs (Blue Danube Waltz). They are so good it makes you forget about the overused music. :-)
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x71...?search_algo=2

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    Dennis Petrov often did not get enough credit for the great pairs partner he was. He skated in an era that had two other great pairs partners- Sergei Grinkov and Artur Dmitriev.

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    I'm always late to the party and by the time I realized how much I loved them they retired. They were the highlights of the couple of SOI shows I went to before they left. Thanks for the videos, I'm trying to get my interest in skating back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unchat123 View Post
    Also, any ideas as to what goes wrong with the lift at 3:20? I can't tell if it's him or her.
    The camera angle that cuts off their feet makes is impossible to say. Either she should have been closer to him or he should have waited until that happened and then started the lift. Her weight was too far forward to actually raise that overhead, but I give both of them credit for going along with the position they hit and not losing too much speed over the mistake.

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    I followed the World Pros very closely back then and I can ensure they only won the World Pros once. They had a tremendous yet also infuriating record at the World Pros as they 2nd an amazingly high number of times. 2nd behind Gordeeva & Grinkov, but ahead of Valova & Vasiliev and Miskutienok & Dmitriev in 1992. 2nd to Underhill & Martini in 1993. 2nd to Gordeeva & Grinkov but ahead of Brasseur & Eisler in 1994. 2nd to Kovarikova & Novotny but ahead of Underhill & Martini in 1995. Easy winners over those same two teams in 1996. 2nd to surprise winners Leonova & Khvalko but ahead of Kazhakova & Dmitriev in 1999. Those cover all their appearances so they never once finished out of the top 2, but only one victory to go with 5 second place finishes.

    Many of those years they were 2nd they skated outstandingly and received a few perfect 10s, but the winners responded with a spectacular performance and even more 10s to beat them. Other years they lost it by a mistake in the technical routine which left them too much ground to make up. The only one of those years I never saw the pairs event was the 1993 edition, and Debbie Wilkes mentioned on CTV that their loss to Underhill & Martini at the event this year was controversial and they were openlly upset about it. They seemed to imply U&M hadnt even skated that well at the World Pros that year but got held up.

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    Thanks for that, judgejudy. Such rotten luck for B&P. It's also too bad that after they won in 1996, they weren't invited in 1997 and 1998.

    I also found a clip of their Whole Lotta Love program on this Russian site (it's not available on youtube):
    http://vk.com/video-12013238_1411602...4fb998b0ffd85a

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    There is such a wonderful smooth quality to their skating as pros. I'm happy they had the opportunity and rose to the challenge to find a niche for themselves as pro skaters, even if they had the unfortunate timing of skating against G&G at the peak of their artistic career.
    Their Nutcracker routine was great as well!

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    wonderful skaters, so much like Elena and Anton! So much originality and creativity, and their wonderful extension and unison...Russian pairs at their very best
    What happened with Elena Bechke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinhood View Post
    ...What happened with Elena Bechke?
    In what context? I recall for a while that she and Denis coached together in Richmond VA. I think they may already have been divorced at that time. I think she just wanted to retire before he did, so he skated another year with SOI, doing group numbers and partnering various of the SOI skaters (including Kristi Y) in small ensemble programs. I don't remember him doing an actual pairs program with anyone after Elena stopped touring.

    She is currently coaching in North Carolina.
    http://www.elenabetchke.com/index2.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan M View Post
    In what context? I recall for a while that she and Denis coached together in Richmond VA. I think they may already have been divorced at that time. I think she just wanted to retire before he did, so he skated another year with SOI, doing group numbers and partnering various of the SOI skaters (including Kristi Y) in small ensemble programs. I don't remember him doing an actual pairs program with anyone after Elena stopped touring.

    She is currently coaching in North Carolina.
    http://www.elenabetchke.com/index2.htm
    Denis actually toured for another two seasons after Elena stopped touring. (Recall that she's two years older than him). She got married the year after she left SOI and has a son and daughter (Alex and Sophia). Her daughter is a skater.

    Denis did a number with Kristi:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33aDa1dIH10
    As well as with Kristi and Jenni Meno:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7DUEAKiiwo

    I read somewhere that those were both supposed to be with Katia but she took those two years off from touring because she had Liza, and Denis was upset with that (that he couldn't skate with her, not that she got pregnant, lol). The number with Kristi is wonderful but it would have been so amazing with Katia.

    On the 2001 Canadian tour Denis was also in the "Chairmen" number (with Kurt, Renee and Gorsha, and Steven Cousins). It's not on youtube but it's downloadable on Kurtfiles.
    http://kurtfiles.com/soi20years/soi2001.php

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    thanks, I am glad they both are coaching...
    Yeah, I wonder about Katia and Denis too, but in the end everything went well

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    Does anybody know who Bechke and Kornienko's coach was? She is seen here at the 3:40 mark and it doesn't look like Moskvina to me. (Which makes it doubly interesting that a lot of the moves Elena did here she also did with Denis later).
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDvkndlziA4

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