The 4 quad debate

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It turns out that I was mistaken.

ISU Rule 512:



http://www5.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page...-0-file,00.pdf

That means that a skater who does two 4T's and two 4S's can't repeat any triple jumps. As far as I can tell, the most likely jump layout would be something like this:

4S+2T
4S
4T+2T
4T
3A
3Z
3F
3R+2T+2T

You left out a 3T and 3S. This is legal too (4 Quads, 6 Triples):

4S+3T
4S
4T+2T
4T
3A
3Z
3F
3S+3Lo+2T

And if you want to get really mathematical, this is pretty much as many jump elements a man can pack in (4 Quads, 6 Triples, 1 2A) with no sequence deductions:

4T+3T+2Lo
4T
4S+2Lo
3A
3Lz+3Lo
3F
3S
2A

Although I suppose this is possible and insane (4 Quads, 6 triples, 2 2A)

4T+3T+3Lo
4T
4S
4S+2Lo
3A
3L
3F
2A+2A+SEQ

[NadineWhite]

Interesting thread, I have no doubt that someone will eventually skate a 4-quad LP sometime in the future. After all there's nowhere else to go but up! And mayhap if might even be Max Aaron (he did state that's his dream). But for now, no, 2018 Olympics, yes.

In the meantime my bet is on 3 men skating a 3-quad LP at next year's Olympics (if they make the team, of course): Javiar Fernandez (duh), Kevin Reynolds, Max Aaron.

[briancoogaert]

Chris Mabee already did 4Loop at the practices.

[johndockley92]

Brandon Mroz regularly does 4L in practice.

The following layout is worth more, points wise than anyone has posted above.

4S 3L
4S
4T
4T 3T
3A
3lz 1l 3s
3f
2A

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Brandon Mroz regularly does 4L in practice.

The following layout is worth more, points wise than anyone has posted above.

4S 3L
4S
4T
4T 3T
3A
3lz 1l 3s
3f
2A

No, sorry. What I posted above (and copied below) has a higher base value (not applying any time bonus):

4T+3T+3Lo
4T
4S
4S+2Lo
3A
3L
3F
2A+2A+SEQ

This layout has an additional 2A and a maxed out three-jump combination (yours includes a half-loop, which is scored as a 1Lo).

[antmanb]

No, sorry. What I posted above (and copied below) has a higher base value (not applying any time bonus):

4T+3T+3Lo
4T
4S
4S+2Lo
3A
3L
3F
2A+2A+SEQ

This layout has an additional 2A and a maxed out three-jump combination (yours includes a half-loop, which is scored as a 1Lo).

You could up the value of yours a tiny bit by turning the final 2A+2A sequnce into a 3S+2A sequence too.

[all_empty]

You could up the value of yours a tiny bit by turning the final 2A+2A sequnce into a 3S+2A sequence too.

Oh d'oh missed the Salchow, sorry John and Antman, you're right.

4T+3T+2A
4T
4S+3Lo
4S
3A
3L
3F
3S+2A

Okay, I think that's maxed out. LOL.