Page 33 of 48 FirstFirst ... 23313233343543 ... LastLast
Results 641 to 660 of 943
  1. #641

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Driving the Han Yan Fan Van
    Posts
    8,823
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsit View Post
    And scratchy skating, oftentimes clunky landings on throws, poor positions in lifts and death spirals...
    They do have a spectacular twist, and John is very solid with his lift technique.
    Their unison is often bad, too. I remember being quite stunned seeing, live, at Skate America, how out of unison their jumps were.
    BARK LESS. WAG MORE.

  2. #642
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,018
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Man o man, there's so much skating going on tomorrow I'm really trying to figure it all out in time to watch them all tomorrow. *biting fingernails*

    Totally forgot about Rostelecom Cup going on at the same time. Want to watch the American pairs there, as well as the two pairs at the Senior B competition as well...

  3. #643

    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    New York, NY
    Age
    28
    Posts
    3,322
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    2251
    Quote Originally Posted by NadineWhite View Post
    Man o man, there's so much skating going on tomorrow I'm really trying to figure it all out in time to watch them all tomorrow. *biting fingernails*

    Totally forgot about Rostelecom Cup going on at the same time. Want to watch the American pairs there, as well as the two pairs at the Senior B competition as well...
    Rostelecom will be over tomorrow before the pairs skating starts in Graz at 2:15 (Eastern).

  4. #644

    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Staring at the ocean, anywhere anytime
    Posts
    9,654
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    4290
    Quote Originally Posted by PairSk8Fan View Post
    Denney and Coughlin were, IMHO, undermarked in PCS at TEB.

    They can achieve the highest technical scores of the entire competition (in GP events), but they really have no chance to ever win due to PCS being relatively so low.

    I also feel their GOE is undermarked relative to the other teams. V/T earn up to 20 points per FS on GOE, while D/C can get, what? 6-10?

    It seems to be a shame. They do all the hard elements and do them well, but never have a chane to win or even come close to a world/Olympic medal.

    Why? Is is John and his poor extensions, posture and lack of visible dance training? Caydee? Both? Their coach? PolitiKs?

    I am at a loss to explain it. Ideas?
    I don't think the problem is John, since Yankauskas & Coughlin finished as high as 6th at Worlds. Some of the problem is they both behave like they totally hate the music they skate to competitively. They were having fun & were fun to watch doing Save A horse Ride a Cowboy. I think they might be able to skate to something humorous or whimsical (likie M-T/M's Micmacs music)_ and score significantly better in PCS.

  5. #645
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,018
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by reese View Post
    Rostelecom will be over tomorrow before the pairs skating starts in Graz at 2:15 (Eastern).
    Yeah, but there's other skating going on as well, and then there's my yoga, et al, and some of the times listed are way way early for me in the PNW.

    I love skating, period, so will try to figure something out.

    And GOOD LUCK to everyone else, hope you're all able to watch as well!

  6. #646
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,018
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    OMG, what fun it was to watch American Pairs' Skating this AM, just a bountiful of riches!

    Here are my impressions:

    Davis & Brubaker ~ I'm surprised (& disappointed) that they seem to be having problems with consistency every time out. Seriously, I thought when they first got together they would be phenomenal because they could land the jumps, but alas the jumps seem to be MIA. However, I think it's too much to ask so soon their first season, give them a couple more seasons together and I can see them on the top of the podium at Nationals, but not now, which is a shame because I think Rockne so wants to make that Olympic Team.

    Scimeca & Knierim ~ easy to see the promise in them, which they have already realized their first season together by capturing that silver medal at Nationals. However, their romance both on & off the ice seems to have cooled since then and it's affecting their skating a bit, as well as Chris's ankle injury earlier this season. Still, if they can put any negative feelings aside and just skate the way they know how to, I can easily see them capturing that silver medal again at Nationals.

    Donlan & Speroff ~ Gretchen shocked me (& Sylvia) by doing the best ever sbs 3T she's ever done before. Still, I thought their big split 3twist was a tad bit crashy upon landing, and unfortunately Gretchen came down on two feet when landing the throw 3S. However, I don't know if it's my imagination but they *seem* to be getting stronger as the season goes on... Hmmm, methinks capturing their first ever gold medal at Ondrej Nepela Memorial last month has something to do with it.

    Kayne & O'Shea ~ WOW, very impressed with them, they have it all just like D&S, however today she UR her sbs 3S (usually Gretchen's the one that does, lol) and their split 3twist is not as big as D&S's, but loved the landing on the throw 3R and also love James Bond.

    http://new.livestream.com/accounts/1...events/2546284

  7. #647

    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    New York, NY
    Age
    28
    Posts
    3,322
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    2251
    I was surprised that Kayne and O'Shea beat Donlan and Speroff on PCS. The former seem sloppier everywhere, buy maybe faster?

  8. #648
    Recovering from the Olys
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    28,264
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    15904
    Ice Challenge Pairs SP scores for U.S. teams:
    2 Gretchen DONLAN / Andrew SPEROFF USA 56.03 32.17 23.86 6.08 5.83 6.08 5.92 5.92 0.00 #3
    3 Tarah KAYNE / Daniel OSHEA USA 53.97 29.77 24.20 5.92 5.83 6.08 6.17 6.25 0.00 #6

    ETA link to protocols: http://www.skateaustria.com/ergebnis..._SP_Scores.pdf
    Last edited by Sylvia; 11-23-2013 at 01:55 AM.
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

  9. #649
    Banned Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    330
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    In watching Alexa and Chris at CoR this week, I think what could be improved to increase their scores, particularly the PCS, is to match the overall line and look of his skating to her skating. Alexa has beautiful positions and carriage and use of her arms and head. He is physically well matched to her and is very strong and a solid skater. However, they look a bit mismatched in that often she looks gorgeous and he looks awkward.

    He should take more ballet class or dance class with her, or do their choreography more often in front of a mirror more then an hour or two a week to work on matching the head, neck, shoulder and arm lines, as well as the leg extensions and lines. This should translate to better PCS.

  10. #650
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    2,018
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Gretchen Donlan & Andrew Speroff just now won their second G O L D medal!!!

    Here's what I typed in the K&C a moment ago (copied & pasted):

    OMG, that's probably the BEST I've ever seen them skate!!!! :

    She landed both throws beautifully and they did the sbs triple jumps, I'm gonna cry with joy, btw the whole time I was practicing my yoga breathing technique, la verdad, lol.

  11. #651
    Recovering from the Olys
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    28,264
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    15904
    Scores are hearsay/not yet official - Donlan/Speroff 162.59(?) win the gold and Kayne/O'Shea 157.65(?) the bronze in Graz.

    ETA:
    Scimeca/Knierim improved their ISU SB score to 173.70 (from 161.72 at Cup of China), also a new ISU PB along with SP (59.56), in finishing 6th at Rostelecom Cup; Davis/Brubaker were 7th with 151.90.

    (I will update the international scores list as soon as the Ice Challenge/Graz official results are published.)

    ETA:
    Senior international scores so far this season (after Rostelecom Cup/Ice Challenge):

    188.47 Denney/Coughlin (61.66 SP, 126.81 FS; Salt Lake, 2nd)
    184.01 Denney/Coughlin (63.52 SP, 120.49 FS; TEB, 3rd)
    182.43 Denney/Coughlin (62.06 SP, 120.37 FS; Skate America, 4th)
    177.11 Castelli/Shnapir (62.56 SP, 114.55 FS; Skate America, 6th)
    173.70 Scimeca/Knierim (59.56 SP, 114.14 FS; Rostelecom Cup, 6th)
    168.89 Castelli/Shnapir (58.60 SP, 110.29 FS; NHK Trophy, 4th)
    168.42 Zhang/Bartholomay (55.83 SP, 112.59 FS; Skate America, 7th)
    167.85 Denney/Frazier (58.67 SP, 109.18 FS; NHK Trophy, 5th)
    167.27 Kayne/O'Shea (60.31 SP, 106.96 FS; Salt Lake, 3rd)
    165.91 Castelli/Shnapir (62.26 SP, 103.65 FS; Salt Lake, 4th)
    162.59 Donlan/Speroff (56.03 SP, 106.56 FS; Ice Challenge, 1st)
    161.72 Scimeca/Knierim (57.99 SP, 103.73 FS; Cup of China, 5th)
    160.19 Donlan/Speroff (56.63 SP, 103.56 FS; Nepela, 1st)
    158.82 Denney/Frazier (55.01 SP, 103.82 FS; Skate Canada, 5th)
    157.65 Kayne/O'Shea (53.97 SP, 103.68 FS; Ice Challenge, 3rd)
    157.28 Calalang/Sidhu (51.94 SP, 105.34 FS; Coupe de Nice, 2nd)
    156.91 Davis/Brubaker (54.04 SP, 102.87 FS; Nebelhorn, 5th)
    155.52 Zhang/Bartholomay (50.33 SP, 105.19 FS; Cup of China, 6th)
    153.71 Davis/Brubaker (52.69 SP, 101.02 FS; Skate Canada, 6th)
    153.34 Scimeca/Knierim (51.17 SP, 102.17 FS; Nepela, 3rd)
    151.90 Davis/Brubaker (51.59 SP, 100.31 FS; Rostelecom Cup, 7th)
    142.48 Denney/Frazier (48.71 SP, 93.77 FS; Nepela, 4th)
    141.01 Leng/LeDuc (57.95 SP, 83.06 FS; Coupe de Nice, 6th)
    130.20 Zhang/Bartholomay (50.23 SP, 79.97 FS; Salt Lake, 7th)

    International medal count: 1 Grand Prix bronze (Denney/Coughlin), 2 Senior B golds (both by Donlan/Speroff), 2 Senior B silvers (Denney/Coughlin, Calalang/Sidhu), 3 Senior B bronzes (2 by Kayne/O'Shea, 1 by Scimeca/Knierim); 1 JGP silver (Aaron/Settlage).
    Last edited by Sylvia; 11-24-2013 at 06:06 PM.
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

  12. #652

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    120
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Scores are hearsay/not yet official - Donlan/Speroff 162.59(?) win the gold and Kayne/O'Shea 157.65(?) the bronze in Graz.

    ETA:
    Scimeca/Knierim improved their ISU SB score to 173.70 (from 161.72 at Cup of China), also a new ISU PB along with SP (59.56), in finishing 6th at Rostelecom Cup; Davis/Brubaker were 7th with 151.90.

    (I will update the international scores list as soon as the Ice Challenge/Graz official results are published.)
    Thrilled for Gretchen and Andrew. Hope this builds their confidence going forward. There's no reason they can't contend on the GP and at nationals next season.

    Nationals is shaping to be quite the dogfight for the second spot between C&S and S&K, which is a bummer since I was hoping they would both make it.

  13. #653

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    NC, USA
    Posts
    16,275
    vCash
    450
    Rep Power
    5352
    Congrats to Donlan/Speroff and Kayne/O'Shea!!!

  14. #654
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    103
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by lauren329 View Post
    Thrilled for Gretchen and Andrew. Hope this builds their confidence going forward. There's no reason they can't contend on the GP and at nationals next season.

    Nationals is shaping to be quite the dogfight for the second spot between C&S and S&K, which is a bummer since I was hoping they would both make it.
    Nice to see Andrew and Gretchen really skating to their full potential. They will be a top team in the future for sure. I don't think there is going to be a dog fight for the second spot for the Olympic Team. Marissa and Simon will be on that team. Figure Skating is unlike other sports, and politics is a BIG part, not to mention, Marissa and Simon have experience and when they skate clean, have the PCS scores to match, I am just being realistic and it's just an opinion. The upside is that US Pairs will have some talent coming up over the next few years so long as all the teams stay together.

  15. #655

    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    enjoying the on-season
    Posts
    1,064
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    305
    There have been surprises in who made the U.S. pair team the last few Olympics, so I think it's incredibly realistic to expect a dogfight this year. Who would have guessed that Evora/Ladwig would defeat McLaughlin/Brubaker and Inoue/Baldwin?

    This year there's a lot of closely matched teams, and it should be an exciting competition!

  16. #656
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    103
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by her grace View Post
    There have been surprises in who made the U.S. pair team the last few Olympics, so I think it's incredibly realistic to expect a dogfight this year. Who would have guessed that Evora/Ladwig would defeat McLaughlin/Brubaker and Inoue/Baldwin?

    This year there's a lot of closely matched teams, and it should be an exciting competition!
    I agree it will be an exciting competition indeed. Regardless it's nice to see the USA has a nice pool of talented teams.

  17. #657

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    120
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by chachacha View Post
    Nice to see Andrew and Gretchen really skating to their full potential. They will be a top team in the future for sure. I don't think there is going to be a dog fight for the second spot for the Olympic Team. Marissa and Simon will be on that team. Figure Skating is unlike other sports, and politics is a BIG part, not to mention, Marissa and Simon have experience and when they skate clean, have the PCS scores to match, I am just being realistic and it's just an opinion. The upside is that US Pairs will have some talent coming up over the next few years so long as all the teams stay together.
    As a big C/S fan, I hope you're right. I'm just not exactly sure how much political support there is for C/S over S/K, who beat them pretty decisively at Worlds, in the FS last year at Nats and have that more classic pair look to them. C&S will have deservedly high PCS if they are clean but them going clean is the exception, not the norm. They also have the benefit of being reigning National Champs skating in their hometown in Boston but with that comes added pressure too. I do think if they are relatively clean (i.e. they can probably afford Simon stepping out of a SBS jump or out of unison spins) and hit the quad, the Boston crowd will go insane and they'll get the Olympic berth.

    Of course, if I were judging, D/C would be so far behind C/S, S/K, D/S and even D/F in Choreography and Interpretation, they would not even be in the conversation and C/S and S/K would be the Olympic team.

  18. #658
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Posts
    1,214
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Scimeca/Knierim seem to be getting back to their normal selves. That was a pretty strong LP in Russia, and their total score surpassed their solid score from Worlds by a tiny bit. They still have a couple kinks to work out, but their throws look back to normal now (generally quite great), and it was nice to see him get back to landing a 3S in competition again (with a hand down, but still). While their leg lines are generally well matched with nice extension, sometimes his arms get a little sloppy, but I think that could be cleaned up a bit before Nationals. I realize it probably hasn't been a main focus as he's been trying to get back up to speed after the injury though. Overall, I'm quite impressed by them.

    S/K were already serious challengers to Castelli/Shnapir last year, so no reason why they wouldn't be this year either. I'm not sure why anyone would consider C/S a lock. Both teams are pretty strong in their own ways. C/S are in better shape this year than they were last year with the throw 4S instead of the 2A and the increased lift difficulty (lifts are very well done), but we'll have to see what they do with the SBS jumps. They're probably not going to want the opening jumping pass of their LP to be 2T-2T. I think S/K with a couple little mistakes would beat C/S with a couple little mistakes head to head, but it's hard to say for sure.
    Last edited by stjeaskategym; 11-25-2013 at 04:06 AM.

  19. #659
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Miami, FL, USA
    Posts
    6,762
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by stjeaskategym View Post
    Scimeca/Knierim seem to be getting back to their normal selves. That was a pretty strong LP in Russia, and their total score surpassed their solid score from Worlds by a tiny bit. They still have a couple kinks to work out, but their throws look back to normal now (generally quite great), and it was nice to see him get back to landing a 3S in competition again (with a hand down, but still). While their leg lines are generally well matched with nice extension, sometimes his arms get a little sloppy, but I think that could be cleaned up a bit before Nationals. I realize it probably hasn't been a main focus as he's been trying to get back up to speed after the injury though. Overall, I'm quite impressed by them.

    S/K were already serious challengers to Castelli/Shnapir last year, so no reason why they wouldn't be this year either. I'm not sure why anyone would consider C/S a lock. Both teams are pretty strong in their own ways. C/S are in better shape this year than they were last year with the throw 4S instead of the 2A and the increased lift difficulty (lifts are very well done), but we'll have to see what they do with the SBS jumps. They're probably not going to want the opening jumping pass of their LP to be 2T-2T. I think S/K with a couple little mistakes would beat C/S with a couple little mistakes head to head, but it's hard to say for sure.
    Good Assessment - I agree that S/K's fall season was all about 'getting back on their feet' … no pun intended. I reiterate that they are my favorite US team right now because I see them with the most potential. There is just 'something there' about their skating even if they need to work on a few things. The twist and the throws are Chinese - German - Russian level IMO and I was very happy for them at RC. Their placement belies their score which as you state is a PB.

    One dark cloud about US pairs in general: While they have been slowly, almost painfully, improving. The rest of the elite pairs skating world is improving more steadily and faster - more and more pairs are reaching or flirting w/ 200 points and just as another example, B/H from Italy were beaten at Worlds '13 by S/K but now they have shot ahead scoring a GP win and 190 points. The Canadian teams are doing quite well, the Chinese are back and the Russians are developing incredible depth in the teams ranked no. 3 - 5. It means that the hard work of US pairs will probably not get noticed very much by the casual observer.

    I think one obvious technical issue for US pairs continues to be the SBS jumps. US teams seem to hit a brick wall there, in that they can't do 2 sets of SBS triples w/ one in combo. Our top teams are stuck doing SBS 2x's which is turning into a relic of the past or attempting SBS triples and either doubling or splatting. Good progress has been made on most everything else, though such as throws, twists, and levels on non-jump elements (for the most part).

    The other issue is PCS - the US top team (D/C) have made wonderful improvements and are working hard, but still lack that natural ease of movement that sends other elite teams over the top toward that magical 190 - 200 point range (I still totally respect all their efforts on PCS, though).

    I hope US teams continue the hard work and as has been mentioned before, they learn to stay together and DEVELOP. Perhaps it will all come together some day

  20. #660

    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Albany, NY
    Age
    32
    Posts
    6,530
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Who does Canada have that is better than the US teams besides MT/M and D/R though? I haven't seen Purich/Tran yet- what are their prospects like? For China, I can't imagine Pang/Tong will keep going after this season, but Peng/Zhang probably will, and Sui/Han are doing decently also.

    Will Volosozhar/Trankov and Savchenko/Szolkowy retire after this year?

Page 33 of 48 FirstFirst ... 23313233343543 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •