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    Bizarrely titled Reuters article on Davis & White

    Figure skating: Davis and White put tantrums on ice

    It's by the same journalist, Pritha Sarkar, who wrote the controversial "Patrick Chan trapped between two worlds" article before the December 2011 Grand Prix Final that spawned a lengthy thread here in GSD.
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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    The article itself is strange - why drag up the Plushenko stuff which has absolutely no relevance here? Sometimes the people who write the story don't write the headline, and that dreadful headline could've been penned by someone who just breezed over the story and thought shock value would attracted readers. Probably did in this case. But a lot of folks don't even read an entire story anyway, and to get to the nice parts about D/W, you have to scroll on down. Weird. All media have an agenda. What's theirs I wonder?

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    Yes that is a bizarre title: To me it makes it sound like they might have a tantrum in the future if history repeats itself, but the whole article was devoted to explaining that that was not their nature.


    DEF. to postpone acting on someone or something. I know he keeps pestering you for an answer, but we'll just have to put him on ice until we have more facts to go on. Let's put this project on ice till we find out how well it's financed.

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    Stupid article. Even though I understand the reference to Plushenko about how taking a tantrum and having your fans on board to cry "he's the real winner". I see the writer drawing up a bit of a parallel with D/W whose fans felt they were robbed of gold at last year's worlds, using the fact that people came up to them after the comp and said that they should have won. Then goes on to say that judging by the standing ovation, W/D should have won and that the judges were blind and deaf. Man, way to try and stir the pot. Kudos to Charlie for not really taking the bait. I like that he commented about them "not being able to pull off a Plushenko attitude" and then laughing after giving his answer.

    Unlike the dumb writer, these two seem to have their heads on straight and their focus on the right thing -- doing what they do on the ice.
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    What an asinine slant for an article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by professordeb View Post
    Kudos to Charlie for not really taking the bait. I like that he commented about them "not being able to pull off a Plushenko attitude" and then laughing after giving his answer.
    That was Meryl.

    Unlike the dumb writer, these two seem to have their heads on straight and their focus on the right thing -- doing what they do on the ice.
    I don't think this journalist covers figure skating much (and it shows). Here's her article on the Worlds free dance in Nice last year: http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/0...82S0K220120329
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    Bizarre indeed. These top two teams must be really tired of these kinds of noise around them Why can't rivalries be great just as they are without any ridiculous press?

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    Quote Originally Posted by professordeb View Post
    Stupid article. Even though I understand the reference to Plushenko about how taking a tantrum and having your fans on board to cry "he's the real winner". I see the writer drawing up a bit of a parallel with D/W whose fans felt they were robbed of gold at last year's worlds, using the fact that people came up to them after the comp and said that they should have won. Then goes on to say that judging by the standing ovation, W/D should have won and that the judges were blind and deaf. Man, way to try and stir the pot. Kudos to Charlie for not really taking the bait. I like that he commented about them "not being able to pull off a Plushenko attitude" and then laughing after giving his answer.
    I thought it was one of the worst parts - essentially like they're backing up her criticism of Plushenko, which was rather nastily phrased (I'm also not sure how exactly his behavior worked out for him, I don't recall a second gold being awarded). I don't recall any of the men's skaters, even the ones who had a real stake in that event, making these sort of comments.

    I posted in the D/W thread after reading the article, because I think it does them an enormous disservice. For one thing, she makes them sound smugly superior - oh no, we're not like those other whiny skaters - which is unappealing. Also, the angle she chose to play up makes the judging seem arbitrary, unprofessional or corrupt (take your pick), which cheapens whatever they do accomplish. I also found it interesting that she went on about the supposed wuzrobbing that so perplexed the audience at Worlds, considering we saw how people in attendance at Nice reacted when a result really offended them, and it didn't happen in the dance event. Even as a non-fan, I think there are enough positives to bring up re D/W and the challenges they have faced in the past year, rather than framing it like this.

    I hadn't realized this was the same journalist who wrote the Chan article about China that got him in trouble last season, but I'm not surprised. At least D/W were able to avoid something truly damaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'etoile View Post
    Bizarre indeed. These top two teams must be really tired of these kinds of noise around them Why can't rivalries be great just as they are without any ridiculous press?
    I think press is a big part of sports rivalries, even though this article is pretty silly.

    I'm at least glad both teams have dialed back the "we're best friends" stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reese View Post
    I'm at least glad both teams have dialed back the "we're best friends" stuff.
    Wouldn't it be vastly more entertaining if they did something like that old Yags & Plush rivalry fluff, with them staring pensively at the snow from the windows of abandoned buildings, while proclaiming that they kind of hate each other

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    This article is just terrible. "Every man, woman and squealing child sitting inside Nice's Acropolis Arena last March had thought the Americans eclipsed [Virtue and Moir]". Really? REALLY? Everyone? It sounds like the writer is the one who wishes they had won, and is projecting that onto her interpretation of the event.

    And the headline is completely misleading. It sounds like D&W wanted to have a tantrum over the results, and decided instead to go out and skate like hell to prove that they should have won. Which is not at all what the actual D&W quotes say.

    Might be time to find the emails of the writer and the person named as the editor, and let them know what crappy work this is.

    ETA: the writer: pritha.sarkar@thomsonreuters.com
    the editor: frank.pingue@thomsonreuters.com
    Editor is also on Twitter as @frankpingue
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    Bringing up plushenko is dumb because that was 2010 olympics and the crowd was not involved like in nice 2012 with Davis and white. Better wobbly than worthless. Plushenko did better in Vancouver then Torino because there he doubled a jump. Imagine if plushenko had doubled a jump In Vancouver! So by doing what you set Out to do and what you did all season plushenko was better in vancover than Torino. No doubled jump. No jump errors like that. Davis and white and virtue and moir are so even but plushenko was so superior to everyone else in the top 10 in Vancouver with 2 quad triples. So even are d/w and v/m and totally superior to everyone else was plushenko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseyedwards View Post
    but plushenko was so superior to everyone else in the top 10 in Vancouver with 2 quad triples.
    In fact, he was so superior that he placed second
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    I just want to say that while the Reuter's article was bizarrely titled, that THIS THREAD TITLE is awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseyedwards View Post
    Bringing up plushenko is dumb because that was 2010 olympics and the crowd was not involved like in nice 2012 with Davis and white. Better wobbly than worthless. Plushenko did better in Vancouver then Torino because there he doubled a jump. Imagine if plushenko had doubled a jump In Vancouver! So by doing what you set Out to do and what you did all season plushenko was better in vancover than Torino. No doubled jump. No jump errors like that. Davis and white and virtue and moir are so even but plushenko was so superior to everyone else in the top 10 in Vancouver with 2 quad triples. So even are d/w and v/m and totally superior to everyone else was plushenko.
    Ah yes....it begins. I was waiting to see how long it would be until a Plushenko uber turned the discussion from David and White to Plushenko and how he should have won in Vancouver. Only 11 responses after the first posting! Wish I had placed a bet with someone. Let's don't start that PLEASE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    That was Meryl.


    I don't think this journalist covers figure skating much (and it shows). Here's her article on the Worlds free dance in Nice last year: http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/0...82S0K220120329
    OOPS! My bad. Can you tell I didn't take great stock in the thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holley Calmes View Post
    Ah yes....it begins. I was waiting to see how long it would be until a Plushenko uber turned the discussion from David and White to Plushenko and how he should have won in Vancouver. Only 11 responses after the first posting! Wish I had placed a bet with someone. Let's don't start that PLEASE!!!
    Vancouver is irrelevant because the real match up was in SLC and King Yagudin came out on top!

    Wheeee! SLC rehash coupled with Plushenko vs Yagudin Much more interesting than zzzzz Vancouver.

    at the article! I wish the writer had bothered to get some quotes from Scott. It would have taken everything to the next level. "We train with each other but...we kind of hate each other." Oh well, maybe next time.

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    Can I get a non-partisan opinion on the 2012 Worlds results? Did V/M deserve to win? I don't follow dance much but like both teams generally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAlisa View Post
    Can I get a non-partisan opinion on the 2012 Worlds results? Did V/M deserve to win? I don't follow dance much but like both teams generally.
    I don't like either team. That said, I felt V&M were the clear winners. They're just in a different class when it comes to things like polish, lines, posture, etc. People can spout off about them being equals all they want, but I refuse to drink that kool-aid.

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    Thanks!
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