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    Tough noogies for Costa Rica! If both played in the same bad conditions, then it was a fair game in my opinion. hehehe And if they don't like this weather much, then they will LOVE Qatar's summer temperature of 100 °F + in 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Costa Rica has filed a complaint with FIFA about the playing conditions in this game. IMO they should have stopped the game. The field was unplayable.

    ETA: Article on espn

    http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/13...states?cc=5901

    I am with Costa Rica on this one. Even though playing conditions were bad for both teams, IMO game should have been suspended. These are not ideal conditions for a sport like soccer. American football can be played in any conditions, except for thunder & lightning (due to the obvious danger), but soccer is a completely different sport and the risk of a serious injury to a player is very high. I assume that the players from Costa Rica had never played in such conditions or anything close to it. My vote will be to replay the second half because the Costa Rican coach had made the request when half the game was over.

    Anyone knows what rules FIFA has about field conditions? I know practically nothing about soccer.
    The USSF scheduled the game several months ago. It is in Denver to help the team prep for the game in Mexico City tomorrow. Part of that venues advantage is it is over 6,000 ft above sea level. The thin air there affects the visiting teams greatly. Mexico has only lost 2 games there since Azteca Stadium opened. Denver is the mile high city. A reasonable place to try to get the team acclimated.

    Each WCQ has a FIFA trained CONCACAF "Commisioner" assigned to it. He/she is the boss of the event until the game starts. The game had to start with that individuals OK. No one from the USSF was involved. Once the game starts it belongs 100% to the referee. It is his game from start to finish and he alone decides on anything involved with the game, including continuing play in inclement weather. His call. Not the USSF. Not any CONCACAF rep. Not a FIFA rep.

    CONCACAF has a history of letting WCQ continue play in horrid weather conditions. The time element is such that a replay is not possible - the game would not restart at halftime, but it would restart with a full 90 minutes to play. With both teams playing on Tuesday in another country, starting a full 90 minute replay on Saturday would give the teams they will play next a decided advantage in rest & travel. Further, there is the cost involved with rescheduling travel, lodging and everything else involved with delaying a minimum of a day for the game to be played. And, what if it took 2 days to do it? Now we have a total mess. Consequently, CONCACAF wants the game to be played to completion if at all possible even if the playing conditions are degraded badly.

    Please don't expect CONCACAF to do much about this. It would e a complete change of form if they do.

    NJL (Posted even though I agree that the game should not have been played. FIFA and CONCACAF need a better plan B just for occasions like this......)
    Last edited by NeilJLeonard; 03-25-2013 at 07:44 PM.

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    FTR, and to no ones surprise, FIFA declined Costa Rica's protest on a technicality. The game result stands.

    NJL
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    Mexico 0 v 0 USA. A point very well earned for the USA considering that Mexico's record in WCQs played in Azteca Stadium is now something like 86 wins, 1 loss, 7 draws & the USA is now 0-13-2 there in WCQ.

    Panama now is 1st in the Hex with 5 points after 3 games played.

    NJL
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    RE: Panama now is 1st in the Hex

    WHO?!

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    In other WCQ news; Italy beat Malta 2-0 with both goals coming thanks to Super Mario. The Dutch beat Romania 4-0 and no new date has been set for that Russia v N. Ireland game. And Israel is in 2nd in it's group just one point behind Russia and ahead of Portugal on GD.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ing-twice.html

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    A nice run down of all the recent WCQ action.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...d-8554825.html

    Oh yeah, and Michael Owen is retiring in May. He has had a respectable career but never quite lived up to all the expectations that were heaped on him early in his career. Too bad he is taking a pass on the next World Cup.

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    Div II NASL begins play April 6th. The League is down to 7 teams for part of this year's league play because the recent elections in Puerto Rico have forced the Islanders to suspend operations for 2013 since the incoming government refuses to give them the stipend (?) that kept them afloat for the last decade. The team hopes to return in 2014. Most people are skeptical, but it is hoped they can return to join teams from Ottawa, Northern Virginia and Indianapolis that are scheduled to start play in the NASL next year.

    The NASL has gone to a split season schedule for 2013 - and beyond that, from what I can gather - with a "Spring Championship" played from April to July 4th, the Month of July off, and continuing play in August with a "Fall Championship" played through October. The winners of the 2 championships will play at the home stadium of the Spring Champion for the NASL Championship a week or 2 after the Fall Championship ends.

    Also, the league will have an extra team - back to 8 in the league - for the Fall Championship with the return of the NY Cosmos to the NASL in August.

    With the Cosmos back in 2013 and the 4 teams mentioned above the NASL should be up to 12 teams by 2014. More are expected to join in the years after. Maybe.....

    NJL
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    Been watching "United" a 2011 movie about the plane crash that killed most of the 1958 Man U team. Check it out.

    Here are today's results from the CL:
    http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionslea...tmatch/report/

    Málaga 0-0 Dortmund
    Real Madrid 3-0 Galatasaray

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    I swear if Barca do not make the CL final I will be a worse blubbering mess than when France beat Brazil 3-0 in '98.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilJLeonard View Post
    FTR, and to no ones surprise, FIFA declined Costa Rica's protest on a technicality. The game result stands.

    NJL
    I know it's been a couple of weeks but I heard from my parents in Germany that there the media reported that the Costa Ricans were the ones who wanted the game to continue after the referee had interrupted it about half-way through. If true, then I understand why the protest was declined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballettmaus View Post
    I know it's been a couple of weeks but I heard from my parents in Germany that there the media reported that the Costa Ricans were the ones who wanted the game to continue after the referee had interrupted it about half-way through. If true, then I understand why the protest was declined.
    Evidently both captains were asked and both said to continue. Evidently the CR coach thought they could tie or win the game. It was after the game was over that the complaining and accusations began.

    The actual reason it was refused was the protest was lodged too late for consideration. It had to be at CONCACAF/FIFA HQ within hours of the matches end & it got there a day or so later. That gave TPTB in FIFA their out. With that they did not have to pass judgment on the game conditions or the referee's decision. They could just refuse to hear the complaint on the technicality of the protest being filed too late.

    The return match in CR should be a wild one.

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    The NASL's wonderful split season & it's demand that teams win early gave us 3 draws in it's opening week end. Three games producing 2 goals in a 1-1 draw and 2 scoreless draws. Not exactly what TPTB had in mind when the decided on this unique, for North America, configuration. Now 6 of the 7 teams are tied for 1st place with 1 in last place. We'll see how all this plays out in week #2.

    NJL (FTR, the Strikers played Edmonton to a 1-1 draw in front of 5,201 people at Lockhart Stadium....it was a loud, fun evening......)

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    Don't like this split season stuff myself, but it's not like the opinion of fans ever mattered to the powers that be. However I do hope that the NASL can sort itself out soon.

    It's Manchester derby time!!!!

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    Don't like this split season stuff myself, but it's not like the opinion of fans ever mattered to the powers that be. However I do hope that the NASL can sort itself out soon.

    It's Manchester derby time!!!!
    From what we've been able to drag out of the people we know that are knowledgeable about the thinking in NASL the split season may become a permanent feature. However, with the possibility of a 12 team league next year and several (possibly 3 at a minimum) teams from California & other points west joining the league in 2015 they may have to rethink the schedule yet again. 15 or 16 teams means a 28 to 30 game schedule if everyone plays each other home & home once. That's over half the week ends in a year. A month break in the summer could mean a 7 or 8 month schedule. Anyone for games in Ottawa or Edmonton, possibly Calgary, in March or late November? It might make that USA/Costa Rica game look like the norm.

    We'll see how it plays out in the next few years. As it is the NASL looks to be in pretty good shape if it keeps doing what it is doing. In time it could give both countries a viable, and very useful, Div II.

    NJL

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    Oh poop.... We lost yesterday.

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    An all Spanish CL final is looking increasingly likely. Just a couple more games to go. LOL

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    Barca and Bayern make up the final quartet, however Barca was not very impressive in their 1-1 tie with PSG.

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    Oh poop! Philly just tied in the 94th minute! How cruel can the fates be!

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