Last edited by cruisin; 02-22-2013 at 10:05 PM.
In any event, it is also the hospital's responsible to assess risk. No one wants to get to the point where security has to be called.
A big, fat lawsuit could have resulted from any number of actions taken by the hospital.
The hospital is facing a big fat lawsuit because it took action that the nurse felt was wrong. The hospital could have taken several different approaches and still faced a big fat lawsuit -- possibly by the jerk if the hospital had refused his request. Whether or not the hospital has a valid defense to the nurse's action or the nurse has a valid claim have yet to be determined. The situation would be the same if the hospital refused and the jerk had filed a lawsuit -- valid claim, valid defense? People file big fat lawsuits all the time, many of which are frivolous. Other folks who may have valid claims decide not to because of other, personal reasons.
Relying on security to intervene or settle a dispute, rather than trying to assess risk beforehand and head off a dangerous situation, seems like a bad choice to me. Even though this is a disturbing situation, at least no one was hurt physically or possibly worse.
But in regards to lawsuits, I know that lawyers have a bad reputation, but who would take the guy's case even if he wanted to sue? And sue on what grounds? Failing to discriminate?
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Not just a professional organization.
Just because other people do it doesn't make it "ethical."And there are cultures where being a different race most certainly would preclude you from a lot of things, jobs being only one of many. And if you think Western cultures don't do that, look a little deeper into your environment.
I do think assessing potential harm and heading it off is much better than allowing it to happen and dealing with the consequences.
I tend to think that avoiding potential violence generally shouldn't be the main goal of any entity's daily operations. I mean, what if the nurse had crazy friends that looked like they'd be willing to burn down the entire ward if the nurse were reassigned, then what would the hospital do? I think it's a valid point that sticking to principle is easier said than done in the heat of the moment when nurses are working in a hospital environment, but this situation continued for a month, which was enough time to find a better solution, IMO.
Oops double post
I am going to present a hypothetical scenario:
Your baby is in the nursery in the same nursery as the baby in question. The father had made his request known to the hospital staff and the hospital administrator on call made the decision to ignore the request saying it was unreasonable and not acceptable in their hospital environment. The father enters the unit and views the nurse caring for his infant. He begins verbal interactions with the staff - yelling profanities, etc. at them. The staff feel threatened and fear that the staff and other patients/visitors are at risk for violence (whether or not he has begun violent behavior). They begin to institute non-violent crisis interventions techniques and the situation escalates. Your baby is injured because the isolates are being pushed around. You or your family members are injured. How would you feel then? In this situation, the hospital is aware of the potential issues and does nothing - are you going to be thinking good for the hospital for standing up to this man? Or are you going to be thinking, the hospital should have considered the potential situation and planned for it?
MacMadame is correct - this is going around in circles. In a perfect world no one would be racist, no one would have objections to receiving care from any and all caregivers. In a perfect world the hospital would never have to make a decision like this. In a perfect world, the nursing supervisor or who ever took the first "request/demand" would have not put it in the chart. But life/decisions are never in a perfect world.
In response to Duane:
You don't think neo-nazis are lawyers? Believe me, there is a lawyer out there for anyone and everyone who wants file suit for just about anything. I've been a lawyer for 21 years, and I've seen some incredible stuff.
While people are considering what could have happened potentially, what about what did happen? Because of this request, someone else's baby had their original nurse reassigned, breaking that child's continuity of care. Then replaced with this now clearly demoralized, clearly upset nurse is thinking about quitting and/or suing the hospital. If this nurse is distracted and makes a mistake with your child as a result, would you be happy about it? There are always potential consequences to any decision, but the fact is, drug addicts, gangbangers, hardened criminals, and the mentally ill are often in hospitals, and they always have the potential to cause harm, but that does not mean that their requests are always granted.
Had someone pushed to have the Newton shooter properly removed from the General population and treated there would be a lot of people alive and unharmed.
DH - and that's just my opinion
I'm not saying nothing could have happened but I think it's unlikely and it would have been easy enough to do that baby's tests only when the other babies were mostly in their mother's rooms if it was truly considered an issue. Or they could have called a security guard to stand by the door while that baby was in the nursery.
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