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    Thanks, Sylvia. That is actually more non-European JGPs than I'd remembered, but (excluding finals, which are now probably scheduled more around the seniors than juniors) only one non-European JGP per year since 2007*, and other than the post-9/11 cancellation year, never more than one JGP in North America. They used to more or less rotate Can/US/Mex for one slot. It's probably not mainly a matter of no one to host in NA - it may be that ISU has decided there will now just be one non-European slot.

    *not quite - there was one in South Africa in 2008, the year before they changed from 8 to 7 events - not covered in Sylvia's NA/Asia list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalamalka View Post
    It's probably not mainly a matter of no one to host in NA - it may be that ISU has decided there will now just be one non-European slot.
    But members have to apply to host a JGP and if I take Germany as an example they only apply every second year but seem to have managed to make a small profit out of hosting it since they moved it to Dresden.

    What I'd like to know is way the Asian and Amerikan federations don't apply more often! Do they not care or are they more interested in hosting SGP and Championships?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalamalka View Post
    It's probably not mainly a matter of no one to host in NA - it may be that ISU has decided there will now just be one non-European slot.
    No way would ISU decide that when non European countries are the ones where skating is most popular, for the most part.

    JGP is JGP though. Unless you're really lucky, those are loss-making events to hold.

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    How about that... six in Europe, one in Mexico? And this is a world sport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae35 View Post
    How about that... six in Europe, one in Mexico? And this is a world sport?
    It has Never been a world sport. All of Africa and South America countries dont have a ISU federation except for 3 nations. And in Asia there's only about a dozen from a continent with more than 50 countries. It has always been Europe plus special guest powerhouse stars CAN,USA and just lately JPN and CHN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post

    JGP is JGP though. Unless you're really lucky, those are loss-making events to hold.
    All those European countries wouldn't be hosting it if they were making a loss. There's money there, just not in ticket sales.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rae35 View Post
    How about that... six in Europe, one in Mexico? And this is a world sport?


    Well seeing as 42 out of the 68 figure skating members in the ISU are in Europe, I'd say that balance was more or less right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BittyBug View Post
    I know they're not money makers, but given that, it's curious to me that it's mostly Eastern European countries that step up and pursue them. Why not the richer feds?
    Does it cost the Eastern European federations anything to rent a rink for a week? If the federations own the rinks or can get them for free or on the cheap from a local authority, it may actually be easier for them to host the event than it would be for other federations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    Does it cost the Eastern European federations anything to rent a rink for a week? If the federations own the rinks or can get them for free or on the cheap from a local authority, it may actually be easier for them to host the event than it would be for other federations.
    That might be it. Pretty much all ice rinks in Poland are owned by the local authorities which probably rent the ice for free (as a kind of sponsorship) for the purpose of international events.

    If rinks had to be hired from private companies, then those events would surely run on a big loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    That might be it. Pretty much all ice rinks in Poland are owned by the local authorities which probably rent the ice for free (as a kind of sponsorship) for the purpose of international events.

    If rinks had to be hired from private companies, then those events would surely run on a big loss.
    And, indeed, that's why the USFSA often hosts events in Colorado Springs and Lake Placed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Canada hasn't hosted a JGP since 2005.
    It was the only event Montreal would occasionally get. I guess no more.

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    The 2013-14 JGP Announcement document with entry numbers by country is available now: http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/pa...v-list,00.html

    Direct link to Announcement: http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=4429

    LADIES
    2 entries per JGP (7 events): RUS, USA, CAN
    1 entry in 7: JPN, GER, KOR
    1 entry in 6: FRA, FIN, CHN, AUS

    MEN
    2 entries per JGP: USA, CHN, PHI (latter 2 countries not likely to use all their spots)
    1 entry in 7: RUS, JPN, GER
    1 entry in 6: CAN, KOR, BLR, BRA

    PAIRS
    3 entries in 5 events: USA, CAN, RUS, CHN
    2 entries in 5 events: GER, ITA, UKR, POL, NED

    DANCE
    2 entries per JGP: RUS, FRA, USA
    1 entry in 7: CAN, GER, UZB
    1 entry in 6: UKR, ITA, TUR, ESP
    Last edited by Sylvia; 04-11-2013 at 04:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    Does it cost the Eastern European federations anything to rent a rink for a week? If the federations own the rinks or can get them for free or on the cheap from a local authority, it may actually be easier for them to host the event than it would be for other federations.
    I don't think the skating Federation owns the rinks. At least not in the UK. The rink is owned by the Local authority.

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    Announcements are available now for the first and last (7th) JGP competitions:

    Riga Cup in Latvia, August 28-31, 2013
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, July 26, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Riga)."

    Tallinn Cup in Estonia, October 9-12, 2013
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, September 6, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Tallinn)."

    Event website for the 3rd JGP in Košice, Slovakia, September 11-15, 2013: http://www.jgpkosice.sk/
    "... The series consists of eight events taking place in eight different places, the last of them being the Junior Grand Prix Final. Košice will be the third city to host this event, after the Lithuanian Riga and Mexico City. The following year, the competition will move to Gdansk, Poland.
    I think they meant to write seven events. ETA: I think they also meant to write the "following week..."
    Last edited by Sylvia; 05-26-2013 at 01:33 AM.
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    How do they decide what junior skaters/teams go to a Grand Prix? Especially new teams that are starting a competition season together for the first time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantallongirl View Post
    How do they decide what junior skaters/teams go to a Grand Prix? Especially new teams that are starting a competition season together for the first time?
    It's all up to the respective national federations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantallongirl View Post
    How do they decide what junior skaters/teams go to a Grand Prix? Especially new teams that are starting a competition season together for the first time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    It's all up to the respective national federations.
    For example, Skate Canada usually publishes JGP minimum technical requirements (and TES scores?) for their skaters -- I don't see a link for the 2013-14 season on their International Assignments page yet.

    ETA: Last season's document re. JGP/Senior B selection criteria is no longer online (it was replaced by Skate Canada's selection criteria for 2013 Worlds, 4CC & Junior Worlds) but here was the relevant discussion thread from last year: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...GP-assignments
    Last edited by Sylvia; 05-27-2013 at 12:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Event website for the 3rd JGP in Košice, Slovakia, September 11-15, 2013: http://www.jgpkosice.sk/

    I think they meant to write seven events. ETA: I think they also meant to write the "following week..."
    It should be also great to learn Slovakian friends that Riga is a capital city of Latvia (as well as the capital city of Lithuania is Vilnius...)

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    Four more Announcements are available online:

    Riga Cup in Latvia, August 28-31, 2013
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, July 26, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Riga)."

    Mexico Cup in Mexico City, September 4-7
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August 2, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Mexico City)."

    ISU Junior Grand Prix Kosice in Slovakia, Sept. 12-15
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August, 9, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Kosice)."

    Baltic Cup in Gdansk, Poland, Sept. 18-21
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August 16, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Gdansk)."

    Minsk, Belarus, Sept. 25-29

    Czech Skate in Ostrava, October 2-5
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, August 30, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Ostrava)."

    Tallinn Cup in Estonia, Oct. 9-12
    Entries are due "not later than Friday, September 6, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Tallinn)."
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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    Finnish entries have been named.

    JGP in Riga, Latvia Aug 28 - Sept 1, 2013
    Ladies: Liubov Efimenko
    Men: Juho Pirinen

    JGP Mexico City, Mexico Sept 4 - 8, 2013
    Ladies: Lyydia Määttänen

    JGP Kosice, Slovakia Sept 11 - 15, 2013
    No spots

    JGP Gdansk, Poland from Sept 18 - 22, 2013
    Ladies: Jenni Saarinen
    Men: Juho Pirinen

    JGP Minsk, Belarus from 25 - 29, 2013
    Ladies: Lyydia Määttänen
    Men: Matthias Versluis

    JGP Ostrava, Czech Republic Oct 2 - 6, 2013
    Ladies: Jenni Saarinen
    Men: Tino Olenius

    JGP Tallinn, Estonia Oct 9 - 13, 2013
    Ladies: Liubov Efimenko
    Men: Matthias Versluis

    Subs for all events: Nelma Hede, Rosaliina Kuparinen, Seidi Rantanen (ladies), Roman Galay (men)

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    There's now a JGP Entries 2013/2014 info and discussion thread in Kiss and Cry forum - link is: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...ries-2013-2014

    For those without access, the entries for Riga, Latvia are published: http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent00051455.htm

    Announcement for Minsk, Belarus, Sept. 25-29: http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=4521
    Entries by name are due "not later than Friday, August 23, 2013 – 20:00 h (local time Minsk)."
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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