Ziglet has clearly established himself as the Felix of the pair, his fate now has him finding empty church wine bottles scattered around the apartment and smelly mitres tossed on the couch.
The fastest thing out of New Jersey since Tricky Nicky in a Muscovian handbasket
I'm not certain a "younger" pope will guarantee anything new for the church. Any younger priests I've had have often been more militant, and often less interested in integrating into the community. I figure they're just a shorter road travelled from the seminary, and that's not necessarily a good thing...
"How you treat the weak is
Your true nature calling" -- Jane's Addiction
A younger pope would mean nothing IMO, bek is younger and she seems to think there is nothing wrong with the status quo and isn't exactly what I'd call progressive. I think any pope of any age would be exactly the same. The Catholic church doesn't want to progress, nor do they seem to see a need to.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21589982Pope Benedict will be known as "pope emeritus" and will retain the honorific "His Holiness" after he abdicates on Thursday, Vatican officials say.
He will also continue to be known by his papal title of Benedict XVI, rather than reverting to Josef Ratzinger.
Vatican's new spin on Cardinal O'Brien's resignation:
The Vatican statement made no reference to the allegations, and made clear his resignation was accepted for reasons of age in accordance with Canon 401#1In a statement released by the Scottish Catholic Press Office, Cardinal O’Brien revealed that he had handed in his resignation “some months ago” and that the Pope had accepted it on 13 November 2012, but said it was to take effect at a later date. That date has come now, he added. The Scottish Catholic Press Office in its statement said, “Given the imminent Vacant See, the Holy Father has now decided to accept the said resignation definitively”
Significantly, Cardinal O’Brien made no direct reference to the allegations in his statement, though he did apologize “for “any failures” and “to all whom I have offended”.
The Church could change its rules on the priesthood allowing married priests. I'm not necessarily against the current rule but it can be changed...Things like that.
The liturgy can always be changed. Practices etc.
I have a really strong background in theology and Scripture. There are things about the Church's teaching that I struggle with but always on those things I can see where the Church is coming from in Scripture and Tradition... I feel Catholicism has by far the best theology.
Now before people start calling me arrogant I'll say this, why would anyone be any particular religion if they didn't think their religion had the best theology...? I will agree that sadly the church doesn't always live its theology....
I became Catholic because inspite its members the Church after all is a hospital for sinners and those sinners certainly include me. I believe in our Church and I believe the way our Church at the very least decides its teachings is the most Scriptural way to do so.
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I'm still shocked by the whole Cardinal O'Brien scandal - he's the cardinal for my diocese. I was confirmed by him, all my siblings and cousins were too and he's been our bishop for as long as I can remember (I even remember him giving me a prize at school on prize giving day). That being said, I think his resignation message kind of says it all. It seems especially shocking considering his outspoken stance on gay marriage. He was even given a "Bigot of the Year" award by a gay rights charity here last year.
It's my understanding that the victims actually came forward some time ago, not just in the last few days. And no one can really believe that he thought other people were making up allegations very similar to what he actually did while the victims of his conduct remained silent."In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them.
Details, please."However, I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal.
His failure to make a specific public apology to his victims and to admit that they were men is intolerable."To those I have offended, I apologise and ask forgiveness. To the Catholic Church and people of Scotland, I also apologise.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out."I will now spend the rest of my life in retirement. I will play no further part in the public life of the Catholic Church in Scotland."