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    2012-2013 TOP 24 SEASON BEST SCORES UPDATED

    After Euros and 4CC here's the Men's Season Best Top 24 List. I'll update the other categories as soon as the 4CC LPs are finished:

    TOP 24 SEASON BEST: ALL GUARANTEED A GP EVENT FOR 2013-2014 SEASON
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    01. ESP JAVIER FERNANDEZ 274.87 EC
    02. JPN DAISUKE TAKAHASHI 269.40 GPF
    03. JPN YUZURU HANYU 264.29 GPF
    04. CAN PATRICK CHAN 262.35 COR
    05. JPN TAKAHIKO KOZUKA 253.27 GPF
    06. CAN KEVIN REYNOLDS 250.55 4CC
    07. FRA FLORENT AMODIO 250.53 EC
    08. CZE MICHAL BREZINA 243.52 EC
    09. JPN NOBUNARI ODA 238.34 SC
    10. JPN TATSUKI MACHIDA 236.92 COC
    11. USA ROSS MINER 235.37 NHK
    12. CHN HAN YAN 235.22 4CC
    13. USA MAX AARON 234.65 4CC
    14. USA RICHARD DORNBUSH 234.04 4CC
    15. FRA BRIAN JOUBERT 232.47 EC
    16. JPN TAKAHITO MURA 230.68 TEB
    17. CHN NAN SONG 228.46 4CC
    18. USA JEREMY ABBOTT 227.63 TEB
    19. RUS MAXIM KOVTUN 226.57 EC
    20. RUS KONSTANTIN MENSHOV 223.72 COR
    21. USA NATHAN CHEN 222.00 JGP-AUT (will likely stay junior)
    22. USA JOSHUA FARRIS 218.69 JGP-USA
    23. RUS SERGEI VORONOV 217.61 COC
    24. SWE ALEXANDER MAJOROV 211.88 EC

    Skaters bubbling under that can still score higher at Worlds or Jr. Worlds:
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    26. KAZ DENIS TEN 203.70 SC
    28. CAN ANDREI ROGOZINE 201.99 4CC
    29. UZB MISHA GE 201.71 4CC
    33. USA JASON BROWN 198.32 JGPF
    34. CZE TOMAS VERNER 197.35 SA
    36. AUT VIKTOR PFEIFER 194.77 EC
    37. CHN BOYANG JIN 194.13 JGP-FRA
    39. FRA CHAFIK BESSEGHIER 189.67 EC
    41. GER PETER LIEBERS 187.96 EC
    43. PHI CHRISTOPHER CALUZA 186.79 4CC

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    Can Oda or Kozuka still be sent to worlds? Their SB is far better than Mura's and if the skate light outs in their events prior to Worlds a case could be made? Frankly it's a huge risk to send Mura at this point, specially if Takahashi is in the same form of 4cc

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    The decission has been made . I woudln't change it. If they want next season JPN fed can do as the RUS fed and hold on the announcement of the world team until after 4CC but right now it will not be fair for anyone. Plus I dont see the big risk, even if performing poorly Hanyu and Dai will get the 3 spots. The 3rd skater is always there just for the experience.

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    Mura's performances are not bad at all. Looks like 3 or 4 judges are determined to hold him down. Perhaps they considered that Mura could be a definite obstacle to regain/keep their Olympic spots. I think any #3 skater will be treated harshly at worlds. At least Mura can land the quad and the 3A consistently. He is the most promising #2 man after Sochi. They should give more chances to him regardless of current results or reputations.

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    Mura is confirmed for Worlds. I think he's shown incredible improvement this season, his programs are very good (FS in particular is gorgeous) and the PCS he's getting are really retarded.

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    He's getting mandatory "3rd skater" PCS, so it's a moot point if its him the one sent or Kozu or Oda IMO... they will still get lowers PCS than Hanyu or Dai even if they outperform them (like today ).

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    PAIRS UPDATE:

    TOP 24 SEASON BEST: ALL GUARANTEED GP EVENTS IN 2013-2014 SEASON
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    01. RUS VOLOSOZHAR & TRANKOV 221.45 EC
    02. GER SAVCHENKO & SZOLKOWY 205.24 EC
    03. RUS BAZAROVA & LARIONOV 201.60 GPF
    04. CAN DUHAMEL & RADFORD 199.18 4CC
    05. CAN MOORE-TOWERS & MOSCOVITCH 196.78 4CC
    06. CHN PANG & TONG 192.81 GPF
    07. RUS KAVAGUTI & SMIRNOV 187.99 TEB
    08. ITA BERTON & HOTAREK 187.45 EC
    09. USA DENNEY & COUGHLIN 179.21 COR
    10. FRA JAMES & CIPRES 178.81 EC
    11. USA CASTELLI & SHNAPIR 174.51 NHK
    12. RUS STOLBOVA & KLIMOV 172.55 COC
    13. CHN PENG & ZHANG 167.76 TEB
    14. USA ZHANG & BARTHOLOMAY 167.30 4CC
    15. USA SCIMECA & KNIERIM 163.10 NHK
    16. CAN LAWRENCE & SWIEGERS 162.30 4CC
    17. RUS MARTIUSHEVA & ROGONOV 162.25 NHK
    18. RUS FEDOROVA & MOROSHKIN 161.11 JGPF (will stay junior?)
    19. FRA POPOVA & MASSOT 157.12 EC
    20. RUS DAVANKOVA & DEPUTAT 155.96 JGPF
    21. RUS VIGALOVA & ZAKROEV 153.56 JGPF (will stay junior?)
    22. CAN JONES & BEHARRY 152.78 JGP-AUT
    23. CAN PURDY & MARINARO 149.94 JGPF
    24. CHN YU & JIN 149.20 JGPF


    Pairs bubbling under that can still score higher at Worlds or Jr. Worlds:
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    25. CHN ZHANG & WANG 145.56 4CC
    28. ITA DELLA MONICA & GUARISE 142.53 COR
    29. RUS GAINETDINOVA & BICH 142.26 JGP-CRO
    30. GER VARTMANN & VAN CLEAVE 141.79 EC
    31. RUS TARASOVA & MOROZOV 137.29 JGP-CRO
    32. GER PROLSS & BLOMMAERT 133.48 JGP-GER
    33. USA SIMPSON & BLACKMER 133.05 JGP-AUT
    34. GBR KEMP & KING 131.51 EC

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    LADIES UPDATE:

    TOP 24 SEASON BEST: ALL GUARANTEED GP EVENTS IN 2013-2014 SEASON
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    01. JPN MAO ASADA 205.45 4CC
    02. ITA CAROLINA KOSTNER 194.71 EC
    03. RUS ADELINA SOTNIKOVA 193.99 EC
    04. USA ASHLEY WAGNER 190.63 TEB
    05. JPN AKIKO SUZUKI 190.08 4CC
    06. RUS ELIZAVETA TUKTAMYSHEVA 188.85 EC
    07. RUS ELENA RADIONOVA 182.86 JGP-AUT
    08. JPN KANAKO MURAKAMI 181.03 4CC
    09. RUS JULIA LIPNITSKAYA 179.40 TEB
    10. FIN KIIRA KORPI 177.19 COR
    11. USA MIRAI NAGASU 176.68 NHK
    12. CAN KAETLYN OSMOND 176.45 SC
    13. USA CHRISTINA GAO 176.28 4CC
    14. USA GRACIE GOLD 175.03 COR
    15. CHN ZIJUN LI 174.11 NHK
    16. ITA VALENTINA MARCHEI 171.06 EC
    17. USA HANNAH MILLER 168.41 JGPF (will likely stay junior)
    18. RUS ANNA POGORILAYA 167.40 JGPF (will likely stay junior)
    19. USA AGNES ZAWADSKI 166.61 COR
    20. USA ANGELA WANG 162.65 JGP-CRO (will likely stay junior)
    21. JPN SATOKO MIYAHARA 161.65 JGP-USA (will likely stay junior)
    22. GEO ELENE GEDEVANISHVILI 160.52 SC
    23. USA SAMANTHA CESARIO 157.72 JGP-AUT
    23 (tie). JPN HARUKA IMAI 157.72 SA

    Skaters bubbling under that can still score higher at Worlds or Jr. Worlds:
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    25. FRA MAE-BERENICE MEITE 157.58 TEB
    29. SWE VIKTORIA HELGESSON 155.72 EC
    31. RUS NIKOL GOSVIANI 154.41 EC
    32. USA COURTNEY HICKS 153.77 JGP-USA
    34. ESP SONIA LAFUENTE 152.29 EC
    37. JPN RIKA HONGO 149.38 JGP-FRA
    38. CHN KEXIN ZHANG 148.34 4CC
    39. GER NATHALIE WEINZIERL 147.52 EC
    43. CHN ZIQUAN ZHAO 146.22 JGP-AUT
    45. KOR SO-YOUN PARK 144.77 JGP-TUR

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    Does the top-24 rule refer to GP/ISU championships only? What about Kim's score at NRW, for example?

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    Re-posting from another thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    The only competitions that count for the Season's Best list are:
    GP/JGP
    GPF/JGPF
    ISU championships: Euros, 4C's, Worlds, Jr. Worlds
    World Team Trophy
    Olympics, Youth Olympic Games, Olympic qualifier

    The Olympic qualifier is the only Senior B that counts towards the SB list. For the 2014-15 season, the results from 2013 Nebelhorn will count.
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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    Unfortunately,Senior B scores are not considered in the ISU season best list that is used for GP assignments next season.

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    ICE DANCE UPDATE:

    TOP 24 SEASON BEST: ALL GUARANTEED GP EVENTS IN 2013-2014 SEASON
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    01. USA DAVIS & WHITE 187.36 4CC
    02. CAN VIRTUE & MOIR 184.32 4CC
    03. FRA PECHALAT & BOURZAT 170.18 GPF
    04. RUS BOBROVA & SOLOVIEV 169.25 EC
    05. RUS ILINYKH & KATSALAPOV 169.14 EC
    06. ITA CAPPELLINI & LANOTTE 165.80 EC
    07. USA CHOCK & BATES 160.42 4CC
    08. USA SHIBUTANI & SHIBUTANI 159.97 4CC
    09. CAN WEAVER & POJE 158.97 COC
    10. CAN GILLES & POIRIER 157.83 4CC
    11. RUS RIAZANOVA & TKACHENKO 157.77 EC
    12. GBR COOMES & BUCKLAND 152.95 EC
    13. RUS STEPANOVA & BUKIN 149.57 JGPF
    14. GER ZHIGANSHINA & GAZSI 147.28 EC
    15. USA HUBBELL & DONOHUE 145.23 TEB
    16. RUS SINITSINA & ZHIGANSHIN 145.08 COR
    17. AZE ZLOBINA & SITNIKOV 144.83 EC
    18. GER KOLBE & CARUSO 142.54 EC
    19. ITA GUIGNARD & FABBRI 142.48 EC
    20. FRA PAPADAKIS & CIZERON 142.08 JGP-AUT
    21. USA KRIENGKRAIRUT & GIULIETTI-SCHMITT 141.41 SA
    22. FRA CARRON & JONES 140.00 EC
    23. CAN ORFORD & WILLIAMS 139.10 4CC
    24. USA HAWAYEK & BAKER 138.61 JGP-GER (will likely stay junior)

    Teams bubbling under that can still score higher at Worlds or Jr. Worlds:
    Rank Country Name Score Competition
    25. USA ALDRIDGE & EATON 138.43 JGP-SLO
    26. GER KOCH & NUCHTERN 136.21 JGP-TUR
    28. RUS KOSIGINA & MOROSHKIN 135.24 JGP-USA
    30. CAN EDWARDS & PANG 135.01 JGP-TUR
    31. RUS ZENKOVA & SINITSIN 134.63 JGP-CRO
    33. EST SHTORK & RAND 132.90 EC
    34. JPN REED & REED 131.04 4CC
    35. UKR HEEKIN-CANEDY & DUN 129.36 EC
    36. CAN BENT & MACKEEN 129.16 JGP-AUT
    38. USA McNAMARA & CARPENTER 128.16 JGP-TUR

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    The ladies could be an amazing event in London

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    Can anyone explain why the Junior scores are considered comparable and weigh in exactly the same when the required elements are different? Also, what happens to the skaters bumped out of the top 24 by Junior Worlds scores if those higher ranked Junior skaters are not moving up to Seniors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiK View Post
    Unfortunately,Senior B scores are not considered in the ISU season best list that is used for GP assignments next season.
    I don't think it's fair that skaters gets points for Senior B competitions but the scores don't count; if they don't count the skaters shouldn't get points for it.

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    Scores at senior B events are generally inflated than ISU events. Largely because the organizers want to give participants better chances to achieve the minimum for ISU championships. Finlandia and NRW are the most generous (outrageous) in this respect. They should never accept those scores for the official SB lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    Scores at senior B events are generally inflated than ISU events. Largely because the organizers want to give participants better chances to achieve the minimum for ISU championships. Finlandia and NRW are the most generous (outrageous) in this respect. They should never accept those scores for the official SB lists.
    Then the ISU shouldn't give the skaters points to boost their rankings based on inflated scores.

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    the ISU is not giving out the scores, the judges are

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    Can someone clarify, first 24 season best get at least one GP guaranteed or 2 GP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    Can someone clarify, first 24 season best get at least one GP guaranteed or 2 GP?

    They are guaranteed at least one event. Only Top 12 at worlds are guaranteed two events. But in practice almost every skater in the SB list eventually receives 2 assignments.

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