And, though I was very young at the time, I don't believe either the chief political official or the legislative body of West Germany were passing laws or instituting anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli propaganda less than a year before the start of the Games there. Does anyone else?
By the way, I sincerely hope the former men's champions of your beloved organization, Mr. Weir-Voronov and Mr. Galindo, find out about your remarks here and personally call you to task for them.
"Skating fans are not a patient bunch." Dragonlady
By the way, I sincerely hope the former men's champions of your beloved organization, Mr. Weir-Voronov and Mr. Galindo, find out about your remarks here and personally call you to task for them.[/QUOTE]
Mr. Galindo is a skating friend of mine for many years. We have no such issues and if there were, he would certainly tell me. He has become a great coach it great to see him at competitions.
It has been my personal observation that Mr. Wier has been treated very well in Russia to the point where he has worn a Russian Jackedt during Grand Prix practice sessions.
You seem to be reaching quite a bit on this issue since Munich had noting to do with the issues you are addressing.
Yes, no one was banned, but it's not as if Russia didn't do something highly discriminatory and ostracizing to a population of people.
I find that the difference in attitudes is because LGBTQ individuals are still seen by many as a group that doesn't need or should be afforded protection the way people are protected by other attributes.
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If anything, this whole mess highlights the lack of character of certain skaters.
The poor LGBT community in Russia fighting tooth and nail for their given human rights. Yet here in America certain err... athletes will have a meltdown if someone outs them. "Oh but I'm so ashamed . I don't want people to know who I really am!"
It puts things into perspective...
The way you dismiss this issue is quite unnerving.
"Oh, it'll be fine I'm sure. It's just the locals that have to worry..." Right Morry?
Now take a look at these two pics and tell me everyone will be safe...
that poor young gay You just know he's about to get a royal ass kicking.
I have not entered in that argument because the Olympic Village is a separate entity with its own protections, from the IOC and Federation Security. My only objection, voiced in all my posts is that trying for a boycott would hurt all athletes. If a person for any reason does not wish to participate then the should inform their Federation so that they can be replaced.
Finally, there will be no boycott by any IOC Federation/
I'm only asking when you would think it would be ok to have a boycott, if ever. I'm asking because you've taken a hardline stance that no boycott should take place because your first priority is to the athletes and what they want.
If Russia passed a law saying Jewish rallies are banned and you can't teach kids it's ok to be Jewish then probably that would mean so much negative consequences that absolutely it surely never would be passed and if it was maybe a boycott. But then again lots of nations were fine with talking to Iran when ahmadinjad ran it. But the issue of boycott was tested with Moscow and it was failure. What did that do?
I think to boycott or not to boycott should be a decision left up to the individual athletes rather than a country wide decision.
Actress Tilda Swinton Poses With Rainbow Flag in Front of Moscow Kremlin
The Academy Award-winning actress shows her support of Russia’s LGBT community by posting a photo of herself holding a rainbow flag in Moscow.
BY Jase Peeples
July 06 2013 2:53 PM ET
Academy Award-winning actress Tilda Swinton bravely posed for a photo in front of the Moscow Kremlin holding a rainbow flag, showing her support for Russia’s LGBT community.
The photo was reportedly shared by Swinton’s representative, Christian Hodell, along with the request, “Please share this message from Tilda: ‘In solidarity. From Russia with love’.”
The passing of Russia’s so-called “gay propaganda” legislation, which was recently signed into law by President Vladimir Putin and bans public LGBT demonstrations and discussions, means Swinton could face a jail sentence of 15 days and deportation for simply posing with a rainbow flag in public according to the new law.
The newly adopted antigay legislation also states any individual using mass media or the Internet to share information about LGBT identities can be subject to fines up to 100,000 rubles ($3,050 USD), while officials are subject to fines twice that amount, and legal entities face a 1 million ruble fine or 90-day suspension for discussing LGBT people.
Additionally, Russian president Vladimir Putin also signed a bill earlier this week barring same-sex couples from foreign countries from adopting Russian children.
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