Last time I checked, Johnny Weir is a figure skater.
Last time I checked, Johnny Weir is a figure skater.
akkto, no one forces anyone to post if they are not interested in a topic.
I stay with my original post. The honor of participating in the Olympic games, no matter how one finishes, will be remembered and cherished for life. I cannot think of any Figure Skater chosen to represent the country, who would not be crushed to find their opportunity to compete taken away due any outside pressure.
Thanks to PI .. I discovered I'm actually a Nontheist
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I´m not against any kind of debate, but I just thought that this would not be the place for this one in particular as I´m afraid that a thread about the Sochi regional cuisine would not be adequate here neither.
It is a sincere doubt of mine, since the rest of themes discussed in FSU seem to have a conexion with the sport of figure skating. I just don´t understand this exception. I hope to not have offendend anyone, and sorry for any grammar mistake that I might have made.
"The goal of Olympism is to place sport at the service of the harmonious development of man, with a view to promoting a peaceful society concerned with the preservation of human dignity." I know this, because I have copied and pasted it from the educational kit of the IOC.
Another connection is that figure skating is a sport which counts more gay athletes and gay fans than most other sports and therefore many heterosexual fans with more than the average percentage of gay friends. Therefore this subject is more relevant to us than the regional cuisine of Sochi, which you gave as an example to how irrelevant this discussion is.
I hope this answers your question.
However, Retton did sort of jump-start the American Gymnastics program by inspiring little girls around the country to become gymnasts, thus getting the 1992 and 1996 gymnastics teams and beyond. So maybe, it was a good thing...if you're a U.S. gym fan.
Oh, Morry, you've been here long enough to know that threads aren't always in their proper place. Why make a big deal about it especially as the issue is actually somewhat pertinent to figure skating AND the article includes a quote from a figure skater who is hoping to compete at Sochi....
To say this thread takes drift to its maximum is just to me.
Last edited by MacMadame; 02-09-2013 at 01:42 AM.
Delete. Wrong Thread.
Yes, it is. And sometimes, thank goodness, we discuss very important large issues which are pertinent to the sport we love. We're not small, narrow people and we know that every once in a while figure skating can take us to a place that really transcends elements and arenas because that issue, in this case LGBT rights, affects the skaters and their fans everyday. We rarely have these discussions, but I'm proud that we do share the bigger picture with each other now and then.This is a Figure Skating Blog is it not?
For those who feel that this issue has wasted an extra five minutes of their time, apologies.
Last edited by Willowway; 02-09-2013 at 03:25 AM.
The Olympic Games have been used as a platform to promote political ideologies almost from its inception.
Unlike Vancouver, Sochi is building every single stadium from scratch. They want to establish Sochi as the top-notch winter sport destination not just in Russia but in Europe. For instance, Russia did not have a Bobsleigh, Luge and Skeleton track for a long time after the break up on Soviet union. The soviet training base was in Siguada in Latvia. Hence after the breakup they had no international tracks, now they have a track outside of Mosocw where they train. Even then if you compare this to at least 5 tracks available to Germans (all of them hosted luge world cups, 5/9 world cups where held in Germany). They also build alpine and cross country center, so Kahnty-Mansiysk is not the only good training centre.
Sochi also upgraded its transport system, high speed railway from Moscow, Upgrading Adler airport. On top of that Sochi is going to host Russia's formula one race, so construction for that. Sochi is also one of the proposed host for the 2018 football world cup. So technical russia is fully building a city or more accurately a metropolis.
I think Russia could do with a lot of re-building, I think Kazan is going through some amount of rebuilding for Universiade. Most of russia transport system will get a much needed upgrade by the start of 2018 world cup. The price tag is huge, if they can afford it why not.
Who wants to watch rich people eat pizza? They must have loved that in Bangladesh. - Randy Newman on the 2014 Oscars broadcast
(Also, both tribes object strenuously to being lumped in a generic "Native American" box. The one up north is the Saginaw band of the Chippewa, the local tribe here is the Pokagon Potawatomi.)
Anyway, side point. There's a difference between wrongs that were done decades or centuries ago and which are now recognized as misconduct, and ongoing issues. I don't support punishing athletes by boycotting as a team, but I would not spend my tourism dollars in a country which had governmental or social issues I found severely problematic (I would not be dumping tourist dollars in Pakistan or Iran, either, for example.) Or one that has past wrongs which they not only don't want to directly acknowledge or accept blame for.
It's a culture war. Anyways the op's article is rather misleading when it says "What year are we in? People are still being arrested for saying it's OK to be gay?" Who, where, when, what?