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    SAG Awards

    Anyone watching?

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    I didn't think this was on TV at first because it wasn't on one of the major networks. Now I see that it is on TNT and TBS. Have they done Best Actress yet?
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    Just did. Jennifer Lawrence won!

    For the other acting awards, Tommy Lee Jones and Anne Hathaway won best supporting.

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    OMG, Jennifer won!? YAY! I really want her to get the Oscar but I still have a feeling that Chastain will win that one. I don't think the SAG is a very good predictor for the Oscars, are they? Maybe they used to but I'm trying to think more recently.
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    I think the actor awards have been fairly accurate (but I'm not sure) but its the Best Picture award that's not as accurate because the Oscars changed their voting criteria and the SAGs didn't.

    Case in point, Argo wins best ensamble. I doubt it wins the Oscar.

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    I wonder when voting was done for this? Do you think Affleck's snub in the director category could have influenced any of the voting? Either for director (who won that?) or the ensemble?
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    Well, Argo won the GG's too so it's hardly a surprise. I guess the Academy just didn't like the film for some reason.

    Daniel Day-Lewis won Best Actor, btw.

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    Full results; winners are starred.

    Male Actor, Supporting
    Alan Arkin, Argo
    Javier Bardem, Skyfall
    Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook
    Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master
    **Tommy Lee Jones, Lincoln**

    Female Actor, Supporting
    Sally Field, Lincoln
    **Anne Hathaway, Les Miserables**
    Helen Hunt, The Sessions
    Nicole Kidman, The Paperboy
    Maggie Smith, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel

    Male Actor, Comedy Series
    **Alec Baldwin, 30 Rock**
    Ty Burrell, Modern Family
    Louis CK, Louis
    Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory
    Eric Stonestreet, Modern Family

    Female Actor, Comedy Series
    Edie Falco, Nurse Jackie
    **Tina Fey, 30 Rock**
    Amy Poehler, Parks and Recreation
    Sofia Vergara, Modern Family
    Betty White, Hot in Cleveland

    Ensemble, Comedy
    30 Rock
    The Big Bang Theory
    Glee
    **Modern Family**
    Nurse Jackie
    The Office

    Female Actor, TV Movie or Miniseries
    Nicole Kidman, Hemingway & Gellhorn
    **Julianne Moore, Game Change**
    Charlotte Rampling, Restless
    Sigourney Weaver, Political Animals
    Alfre Woodard, Steel Magnolias

    Male Actor, TV Movie or Miniseries
    **Kevin Costner, Hatfields & McCoys**
    Woody Harrelson, Game Change
    Ed Harris, Game Change
    Clive Owen, Hemingway & Gellhorn
    Bill Paxton, Hatfields & McCoys

    Male Actor, Drama Series
    Steve Buscemi, Boardwalk Empire
    **Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad**
    Jeff Daniels, The Newsroom
    Jon Hamm, Mad Men
    Damian Lewis, Homeland

    Female Actor, Drama Series
    **Claire Danes, Homeland**
    Michelle Dockery, Downton Abbey
    Jessica Lange, American Horror Story: Asylum
    Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife
    Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

    Ensemble, Drama
    Boardwalk Empire
    Breaking Bad
    **Downton Abbey**
    Homeland
    Mad Men

    Female Actor, Lead
    Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty
    Marion Cotillard, Rust and Bone
    **Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook**
    Helen Mirren, Hitchcock
    Naomi Watts, The Impossible

    Male Actor, Lead
    Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook
    **Daniel Day-Lewis, Lincoln**
    John Hawkes, The Sessions
    Hugh Jackman, Les Miserables
    Denzel Washington, Flight

    Cast in a Motion Picture
    **Argo**
    The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
    Les Miserables
    Lincoln
    Silver Linings Playbook

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    Lawrence has won 24 major acting awards so far, one tied with Chastain. Chastain has won 16. My gut tells me Jennifer is still more likely to win the Oscar.

    And I'm going to cry if she does. Big, fat, messy tears.

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    Oh, me too. I was so thrilled for her tonight and she looked VERY surprised and happy. Although I guess she had a little wardrobe malfunction on her way to the stage...her dress had a two-piece skirt sort of thing, and I think it got snagged on a chair on the way down because while she was walking up the steps, the bottom half slipped and she flashed about six inches of thigh. Only Jen...

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    I hope you are right, michiruwater!
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    I just don't get Silver Linings Playbook. I thought it was incredibly over-acted and truly unconvincing.

    Jennifer Lawrence will probably undeservedly win an Oscar now because she's a hot commodity with many more years to work with the studios to churn out hits. She appeals to all sorts who for some reason or another all have decided they have huge crushes on her. Even David O. Russell, director of Silver Linings Playbook, ogled over her with the camera during the movie.

    She won't be the worst winner ever, but after seeing the other nominees plus a few others who weren't nominated, I felt she's clearly the weakest of the bunch (with the exception of maybe Wallis whose performance I loved but am not quite sure if she knew what she was really doing in the film other than reacting the way the director wanted her to). I guess it's to be expected. Her character checks all the boxes. Screaming scene, crying scene, sad scene, sexy scene, dancing scene, quirky but not too quirky, has emotional problems but not too difficult to overcome (yeah loved how the film dealt with her sex addiction so easily), character defined by lead male character, gets to be a little mean to DeNiro who finds it charming, really has a heart of gold deep down her rough exterior, etc.

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    It's not like she's never been nominated before and came out of nowhere In fact, she's the youngest actress to receive two BA nominations in history.

    I've seen everything she's been in except that one horror movie and, unfortunately, SLP, due to my move to China before either of those came out. Oh, and I haven't seen the Bill Engvall Show. But in each of those movies - The Burning Plains, Poker House, Hunger Games, X-Men, The Beaver, Winter's Bone in particular - she was absolutely fantastic, and I have no doubt that she was fantastic in SLP as well. She has a real innate talent. It's fine if you don't agree, and obviously I'm a Jennifer uber, but I don't think many people will agree with you that it is undeserved if she does win. The critics adore her. She has a gigantic fan base, mostly for her talent combined with her hilariously irreverent attitude (which is the reason behind the crushes, I imagine - she doesn't act like a star at all and she's very funny in her interviews/talk show appearances).

    But you are right that's a good tactical move on the Academy's part. I won't pretend that's not true - I've said that several times over the last year. She has several guaranteed hits coming out over the next few years - HG and X-men sequels in particular - which basically guarantees that she won't get the Oscar curse. And they do want to appeal to a younger audience. I just don't think that this means that she's undeserving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spareoom View Post
    I think the actor awards have been fairly accurate (but I'm not sure) but its the Best Picture award that's not as accurate because the Oscars changed their voting criteria and the SAGs didn't.

    Case in point, Argo wins best ensamble. I doubt it wins the Oscar.
    Dunno. Argo won the Producers' Guild award. I think the snub has galvanized it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    I wonder when voting was done for this? Do you think Affleck's snub in the director category could have influenced any of the voting? Either for director (who won that?) or the ensemble?
    Directors' Guild awards are next weekend.

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    I've seen Winter's Bone and agree she deserved a nomination for that performance. It was everything SLP was not in that it didn't pander to the audience, go for cheap emotion, and it allowed Lawrence to give a truly nuanced performance from a difficult character to pull off.

    I also acknowledge I'm in the minority regarding SLP, which is why I'm being much harsher on it than it probably deserves. I simply didn't get it, and I guess it doesn't feel good to see most people give so much praise to something you yourself simply did not connect with. It also doesn't help that I actually liked all of the actors and the creative team behind SLP in other projects and was really looking forward to seeing it. I guess I was disappointed with something I felt seemed lazy.

    As for the Argo thing, I think the director's branch snubbing Affleck really helped Argo in this race. Now the guilds are going full-force in support of it. We'll see if the Academy membership as a whole will reward it to acknowledge the perceived mistake the Director's branch made with snubbing Affleck or if they will show that they do have their own minds and pick another film as Best Picture. The only thing we don't know really is who is going to win the DGA unless someone who is nominated for Best Director wins it.

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    It's entirely possible that I'm also taking it too personally because I want to see SLP so extremely badly and will probably never have the opportunity to see it in theaters. And you did. And you didn't like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiruwater View Post
    Lawrence has won 24 major acting awards so far, one tied with Chastain. Chastain has won 16. My gut tells me Jennifer is still more likely to win the Oscar.

    And I'm going to cry if she does. Big, fat, messy tears.
    This award is special because her fellow actors voted for her. And she is so young...you know you see all ages in the supporting category but to win in the category she was in is special indeed. I want to know what we are witnessing: Is this young woman going to have Meryl-like success? Is she that good? (I don't know a lot about her.)

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    I think so, but then again I'm not the most educated. She's fairly special in that she has the respect of the critics AND the box office...there's not many actresses who are popular with the general public and film critics. Anne Hathaway is another actress that I can think of who is like that.

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    But Anne isn't as popular as Jen is (though I think she gained back some respect from all the naysayers with, actually, her performance as Catwoman in particular). For some reason, and I have no clue why this is, there are a lot of Anne haters on the net. I don't get it. She's beautiful and talented and also pretty funny in interviews, and seems very gracious, but she seems to rub people the wrong way a lot. Not me, so, like I said, I don't get it Maybe it's still negative reaction from her Oscars hosting, but I blame James Franco for that disaster entirely.

    And I've been wondering that myself - will Jen have a Kate Winslet or Meryl Streep-like career? (though if she wins she'll be ahead of Kate's curve by like, what, a decade and a half? ). I really hope so. She's in a good place right now, with the two franchises she's in guaranteed to have at least three more hits combined and all the world scrambling to work with her, when she's so young. I just hope she keeps the positive, irreverent attitude and continues to stay out of the limelight the best she can. I think it's a good attitude to have.

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    Well, if Jen did win the Oscar it would be hard to see her have that decline in roles because as you said, she's got a minimum of four big franchise films yet to be released not to mention the smaller films she's already gotten lined up. Gosh, if she wins, do you have any idea how much money she's going to be worth?! Oscar winners are always perceived as expensive (hence the post Oscar dry spell that so many have), but Jen is freakin' Katniss.

    I have to say, as a RABID Hunger Games fan, you have no idea how proud I am that our movie franchise was lucky enough to get Jennifer Lawrence as Katniss. Not only is she a fine, fine actress, but she's exactly how I imagine the character to be in every way possible, and I couldn't be happier. I don't think Gary Ross realized the full potential of the books, but based on some things I've heard from Francis Lawrence, the new director, I really think he "gets" it, and I feel optimistic and happy.

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