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    Article: Dislocated hip ends Czisny's bid for third U.S. title

    New article with quotes from Jason Dungjen: http://www.icenetwork.com/news/artic...&vkey=ice_news
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    After completing the first three jump elements in her free skate on Saturday, Czisny fell on the landing of a triple flip, dislocating her left hip. She was transported to nearby Appleton Medical Center, where Dr. Todd Smith, a specialist in orthopedic sports medicine, manipulated the hip back into alignment.

    The 25-year-old skater was briefly sedated, and Dr. Smith was able to complete the treatment in half an hour, said Czisny's coach, Jason Dungjen.

    Czisny's leg was placed in a stabilizing brace as a precaution, and she departed the hospital early Sunday morning.
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    Czisny has scheduled a follow-up appointment in Nashville, Tenn., next week with Dr. Thomas Byrd, who repaired her labral tear last year.
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    well...that is better than it sounded at first. at least no surgery. The entire thing is a dang shame though
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    Re-posting this positive comment from the earlier thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by rfisher View Post
    Actually, while this is very disappointing for her for this season, she likely didn't do any significant nerve damage and hopefully will make a full recovery in a relatively short time. The fact they were able to reduce the dislocation very quickly is very hopeful toward her long term recovery as an athlete. She should recover from the injury just fine and hopefully continue her skating career if that is her wish.
    This will be the first Nationals Alissa Czisny has missed since her debut in 2001 (she won the Junior silver medal). She has competed in 11 consecutive Nationals at the Senior level (2002-2012).
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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    I hate to be negative but this injury most probably marks the end to her competitive skating. She just had hip labrum repaired (not sure which side) which is basically holding a hip in its socket. Dislocating a hip tears the labrum making the hip lose... It can be surgically repaired, however it is hard to come back from such injury. I am speaking from my own experience.
    I wish that I am wrong and wish Alissa speedy recovery. It must be devastating to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vexlak View Post
    I hate to be negative but this injury most probably marks the end to her competitive skating. She just had hip labrum repaired (not sure which side) which is basically holding a hip in its socket. Dislocating a hip tears the labrum making the hip lose... It can be surgically repaired, however it is hard to come back from such injury. I am speaking from my own experience.
    I wish that I am wrong and wish Alissa speedy recovery. It must be devastating to her.
    Same hip, unfortunately.

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    I wouldn't make any pronouncements on Alissa's career following her injury. I doubt any of us here are her personal physicians and if you were, you's know better than to make definite predictions. I am so glad there was no nerve damage, no complications and that she ended up with a manipulation and not surgery. I hope she is resting comfortably and is able to begin physical therapy soon. Time will tell. Best wishes in your recovery, Alissa!
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    From the article, Jason seemed upbeat at least, and it looks like Alissa was fortunate to have such expert care available virtually on the scene.

    While a full comeback to competitive skating would obviously be icing on the cake, here's to a complete, measured recovery and a clean bill of health for Alissa, first and foremost.

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    I am very thankful that she did not have to have surgery! I think that is the best short term news we could hear.
    I meant to take the high road.... but I missed the exit.

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    Czisny has been fortunate to have a LONG (10 years) career without major injury. And now, all of a sudden, she gets not one, but TWO major injuries in quick succession, in the same area to boot? Yeah, I know, we are not her physician, yada yada but I don't think a M.D. is required to realize that this may be her body's way of basically saying, "I'm done". Like MK- just because the mind wants to doesn't mean the body will follow suit.

    In short- I will really be surprised if she can make a FULL recovery/comeback attempt (that is, compete at the same level or higher than she did pre-injury). Not impossible, mind you, but the odds are definitely not in her favor.

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    An article on hip dislocation in athletes. http://download.bioon.com.cn/upload/...O5R.attach.pdf

    The section on Rehabilitation of Grade 1 Hip dislocation details the exercises, gradual return to fitness and competition. My guess is that Alissa had a simple dislocation and reduction was performed in a timely manner, thereby reducing the risk factors for the various complications listed in the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAlisa View Post
    I wouldn't make any pronouncements on Alissa's career following her injury. I doubt any of us here are her personal physicians and if you were, you's know better than to make definite predictions. I am so glad there was no nerve damage, no complications and that she ended up with a manipulation and not surgery. I hope she is resting comfortably and is able to begin physical therapy soon. Time will tell. Best wishes in your recovery, Alissa!
    I seriously doubt that anyone here is claiming to be her personal physician. Geez...
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    Speaking of physicians, I spoke to a sports medicine specialist and described the situation and whatever history I know and he said you could never know one way or another in terms of return to competition.

    nubka, please take a deep breath and relax. It's called a hypothetical.
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    Has any skater ever successfully returned to elite competition after tearing their labrum and/or dislocating their hip? Maybe NNN (I forget what type of hip injury she battled)?
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    Devastating news. I remember NNN's injury and long road to a comeback in pairs, which was heartening to see - she was a lovely skater. I hope Czisny can make a strong recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheylana View Post
    Has any skater ever successfully returned to elite competition after tearing their labrum and/or dislocating their hip? Maybe NNN (I forget what type of hip injury she battled)?
    Yuko Kavaguti has had many dislocated hip and shoulder problems, and she is still competing in senior pairs. I don't think she has had surgery for any of them though. I was at one competition where her partner popped her shoulder back into place during the FS program and she kept on skating - it was horrible and amazing at the same time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peibeck View Post
    I am very thankful that she did not have to have surgery! I think that is the best short term news we could hear.
    Yes, that is indeed great news! I'm hoping she can return to skating and competition again if that is what she wants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nubka View Post
    I seriously doubt that anyone here is claiming to be her personal physician. Geez...
    i dont understand why people get mad when other posters speculate on a FAN SIGHT!!! what the hell did Icealissa expect to see " hey... lets all hold hands and sing Kumbaya"? People come here to read and post. Posters range in ages. Fans here are also fans of other sports and have experiences with injuries that they bring. No one said they were the damn doctor!

    I watched her train a few weeks ago and she looked beyond fantastic. Lutzing EVERYWHERE and doing 3 flips like they were doubles. The thing that bothers me about this is how whatever outcome effects Alissa beyond her skating years. She is such a genuinely kind person. SHe has been through so much in her career and this setback is rough. She gets heat from people when she makes errors but rarely gets credit for being the overcomer she is. I truly hope that no matter if she competes again and wins a major title of if her physicians advise her to retire that she moves forward being at peace with the decision and not having regrets. I also hope that whether her next chapter begins sooner or later that its prosperous.

    Alissa, get well soon for YOURSELF!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAlisa View Post
    Speaking of physicians, I spoke to a sports medicine specialist and described the situation and whatever history I know and he said you could never know one way or another in terms of return to competition.

    nubka, please take a deep breath and relax. It's called a hypothetical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viennese View Post
    Devastating news. I remember NNN's injury and long road to a comeback in pairs, which was heartening to see - she was a lovely skater. I hope Czisny can make a strong recovery.
    All of that pair skating NNN did was just an attempt to get on an Olympic team after injuring herself so badly she could no longer be competitive in singles. She should have just let well enough alone because that whole pairs skating stint was a waste of about 2 to 3 years of her time. Skaters usually do not know when their time is up..( Fumie Suguri) Let's hope that Alissa will listen to her body and not try and kill herself in the process of another comeback..

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    IceAlisa's response was more to the fact certain posters who made multiple negative posts about Alissa last spring have already jumped on the "career ending" bandwagon just as they did before and will soon segue into how she's an embarrassment to USFSA and has always been held up because she beat their favorite skater in competition. We've heard it before. Frankly, nobody knows what the future will hold for her at this point. Those of us who admire her spirit and her skating, wish for a full recovery and aren't ready to consign her to the hasbeen spot. The future is her choice to make and I'm certain she'll do what is best for her.
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