Article about Midori:
Jill sure did a lot of single axels. I still vote for her over Leistner. Leistner had nothing.
1A+3S (small step out)
1A+0.5L+1S+1S+2L (slight stumble and sequence delivered with low energy and no finesse)
3L (sort of completed on one foot)
2S (out of energy, barely avoiding lurching)
Edit made per Orbitz.
Last edited by TheIronLady; 06-16-2013 at 03:28 AM.
Jill should have been 8th or something at the 89 Worlds. What a weak performance, and what incredibly boring music. What is it, a horse march.
Jill's final jump sequence was a 1axel-0.5loop-one foot sal - 1sal - 2loop. It's not possible to do a 0.5L-0.5L-0.5L sequence unless the skater is able to do a change of edge after the landing and jump in both directions.
I would like to see all the performances, but I do find it amazing nobody was deemed good enough to beat Jill and Claudia's skates at those Worlds. Must have been their lead in figures and their strong shorts that guaranteed them medals. I certainly hope the judges didnt place them 2nd or 3rd in the long. Evelyn Grossmann had a much better long than both and I saw hers. Kristi perhaps too although Kristi didnt deserve to be at Worlds that year to begin with.
Thomas's 87 World LP was considered a "show-stopper"? Really? Kat won the LP with the performance of her career.Because of the program's extreme difficulty, Burge ranked it [Ito's LP] ahead of Thomas's 1987 show-stopper at the world championships in Cincinnati.
I keep hearing this argument as to why women generally can't do 2A. But skaters like Mao, Nelidia, and Meissner don't look like they have more upper body strength than most of their peers.Since the jump [3A] requires extreme upper-body strength, most women can't do it.
It was a royal crime Tonya was not at Worlds that year, especialy with how she skated at Nationals. Kristi with her figures was never going to be any contender that year, so sending her was pointless. Tonya outskated Kristi at Nationals that year in both figures and free skating and still lost to her; and so far outskated Jill in free skating and still was behind her in both short and long programs, not just figures which was understandable. The kind of heavy internal National politics that poor Tonya had to deal with for many years. Her own problems were not all her own doing as some suggest. She was held back in a huge way by politics from 86-88 too.
With her strong figures, and great freeskating Tonya would have won a medal that year, and could have even possibly challenged for the gold. What a waste and foolish move by the USFSA.
Well Jill is generally more a quality skater than Claudia I agree. However Jill's free program that year was the most boring thing she ever did with horrible music. So that along with Claudia doing more triples and making less mistakes, I would put Claudia ahead of the two. I still think both were overmarked though.
The SP judging was also pretty bad. I think I would have had Yamaguchi winning the SP and I've always been fairly meh on her skating overall. But that was a program well-suited for her at that stage in her career, presented well with lovely arms, good spins and the most difficult combination in the competition. This was the first time I've ever seen Ito's SP from this competition and even thought I am a huge fan of Midori, I have to agree with Toller Cranston's commentary that the judges were clearly in her corner to give her the win in the SP...because even though I know that none of them would have realistically gone for Yamaguchi, Trenary really should have beaten Ito in the SP. Ito gave up her big advantage on the jumps by inexplicably only doing a double toe-triple toe combination and while that was still more difficult and better quality than Trenary's combination, the only other element I'd give Ito in a head to head comparison is the double axel. Ito's spiral sequence particularly stood out as not being well done (wobbly, poor positions) and her program was a very poor choice for her. The 6.0s on the technical mark were pretty outrageous. Although at least in that case, it did lead to the right overall result - if Trenary had beaten Ito in the SP and the FP had the same rankings, then Leistner would have ended up as World champ
I don't remember what Nelidina looked like, but Ito had a very compact body, and all of her jumps had a lot of power. IMO both she and Tonya were exceptional athletes.
It says on Wikipedia in the entries for both Isabelle Brasseur and Lloyd Eisler, that they were 7th at the 1988 Worlds and 14th at the 1989 Worlds. I looked it up since I thought they had placed lower in '89.
I am still surprised to find out that Kristi Yamaguchi was pairs skater as well.
Guess I am not a great skating chronicle
As of March 2013 - no longer scared of TAHbKA or Andrey aka Pushkin
Leistner actually lost 2nd place to Trenary in the SP only on a 5-4 split. Had she gotten 1 more judge over Jill in the short she would have won the World title even with that scary bad LP. Claudia actually beat Jill on elements scores in the short program, even with the same jumps, but lost to her on the presentation. One judge gave Claudia 5.8 for elements and 5.6 for presentation. Had that judge just dropped to a 5.7 for presentation rather than to a 5.6 Claudia would in fact have been 2nd in the SP and won the World title, which is a scary thought, but something few people know.
IMO Midori definitely deserved to win the short. Her program was kind of blah but the short is about elements. A double toe-triple toe is still much harder than a triple toe-double toe that Leistner, Trenary, and Lebedeva all did. Ito had not only the best jumps and the strongest spins of all the top skaters that night, and her weak spiral sequence was more than compensated for. Claudia had a wonky landing on her double axel and a wonky ending. Jill has mediocre quality jumps even when landed which is what held her back even when she was doing as hard or harder jumps than most of the other top skaters in the Thomas-Witt era, although this was one of her best short programs. Neither Claudia or Jill had spins nearly as strong as Ito's program. I think Lebedeva was almost unfairly marked. Her technical elements were excellent that night and the 2nd best after Ito, but the program was a huge bore on the other hand. 5th place in the short for Yamaguchi was about right even with her triple lutz combo. She had strong and consistent (albeit not yet spectacular or very big, or with much flow) jumps, but also a ton of holes in her skating at that point, and did not even deserve to be at Worlds over Tonya Harding in the first place.
They were 7th both years, but the field in 1989 was much weaker, so a 7th was much more disappointing in 1989. Of the 6 teams ahead of B&E in 1988, 4 had retired and Selezneva & Makarov were also not at Worlds (injured?). So to finish 7th again meant that they had lost ground to 5 teams. It probably hurt even more that Landry & Johnston had won the silver medal given that they had finished behind Brasseur & Eisler at Canadians two months earlier. Given all of that, it's not unreasonable that Brasseur & Eisler could have expected a podium finish with a good skate, so 7th place (out of 11th teams) was really a disaster.
Didnt Landry & Johnston skate poorly at the Canadians that year though? I dont think the result there neccessarily proved Brasseur & Eisler were the better team. Although given the field that year even a then immature Brasseur & Eisler definitely had a shot at the silver or bronze with a good competition.