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    Quote Originally Posted by The Accordion View Post
    Yeah - the talent in US dance is unbelievable right now!
    Do you think Shibs and C-B were better? I dont, but who i am?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Accordion View Post
    So. Nationals inflation aside - anyone freaking out yet?
    Not really. It was a similar situation last year and V&M won 4CC and got their levels they didn't get at nationals. Also you have C&B, Shibs and H&D all score 100-105, with that in mind D&W were going to be close to maxing out their score. Personally I think the European results are more of a concern in that it shows the judges don't really care too much about the program. It's all about speed and nailing the elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbkenn View Post
    I am glad now that the Canadian judges were tough on V&M after seeing the ridiculously high scores for D&W. I just do not understand why D&W get such high scores. Someone has to explain that to me.
    Just like with V-M SD at Nationals - all levels 4 and D-W get all 10 in component score. You could see this
    http://www.usfigureskating.org/leade...0/results.html
    And Tracy all time talking about masterpiece of this FD.
    And about Shibs FD, wich nothing special at all. When i saw Alex videos, i think they could made something much better.

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    Link to portuguese newspaper JN cause it has a couple of photos from Tessa and Scott: http://www.jn.pt/multimedia/galeria....ent_id=2878189

    EDIT: they are shown on pictures number 13 and 20

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    I think V&M's Carmen is far superior to Funny Face last year, but D&W's program last year much better than this year's Notre Dame, but what do I know. D&W didn't seem too thrilled by their marks as if they didn't like being overmarked either. It sends the wrong message. I don't understand the judges when they do that.

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    Does someone have a link to the protocols from Tessa & Scott's free dance from nationals? I've been looking everywhere to no avail.

    Although I'm a D/W fan, I always love watching T/S's chemistry and acting. So amazing! I'm looking forward to FCC and London! May the best team win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pani View Post
    Just like with V-M SD at Nationals - all levels 4 and D-W get all 10 in component score. You could see this
    http://www.usfigureskating.org/leade...0/results.html
    And Tracy all time talking about masterpiece of this FD.
    And about Shibs FD, wich nothing special at all. When i saw Alex videos, i think they could made something much better.
    holy inflation batman!
    even performed well, there is no way in hell ND is over ten pts better than carmen the choreo is so generic. v/m just got to bring it hopefully they will smooth over the flaws in their fd by 4cc

    anyways v/m's performance of hallelujah (lbr the performaces at cannats gala definately overshadowed US nats ) at the gala ought to be their best performance yet! it was so raw and sensual
    also tsn's coverage was p. shitty. like idgf about what brian williams had to say about the gala i just wanted see the skaters dance to gangnam style

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    What i see? I see at least happy Zueva, like she was at 2010. At Canadian Nationals she looked bothering and indrferent. Plus she didnt talk with judges about that spin, maybe because she didnt care or didnt know nothing about this.
    But look at her in Omaha - yes, she become live again
    Meryl look very happy with this mars, when she was unhappy all the time (110 its so lowe mark for her).
    But i am ready, so dont care.
    And i hate when people talking about they love both teams and dont care, who will win, becasue this show unrespect to T-S skating quality and better programs this season.

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    thought of the night.. if you add other 3's to the GOE's and replace the few 9.75 with 10's, you get the absolute top score, the highest possible in the current sistem. what number would come out, i wonder? 120.00?

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    The judges at Canadian always point out Tessa and Scott's weaknesses. This always helps them in the end.......not so the U.S. judges with their top team; hence, the magnified inflation. I feel bad for the Shibs though, being shafted.

    Put it all in prospective!!!!
    Addicted to FSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by martyross View Post
    thought of the night.. if you add other 3's to the GOE's and replace the few 9.75 with 10's, you get the absolute top score, the highest possible in the current sistem. what number would come out, i wonder? 120.00?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pani View Post
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    thanks!

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    Does someone have a link to the protocols from Tessa & Scott's free dance from nationals? I've been looking everywhere to no avail.

    http://results.skatecanada.ca/2012-2...gesDetails.pdf

    They lost 9.5 points on levels and long lift deductions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarie View Post
    The judges at Canadian always point out Tessa and Scott's weaknesses. This always helps them in the end.......not so the U.S. judges with their top team; hence, the magnified inflation. I feel bad for the Shibs though, being shafted.

    Put it all in prospective!!!!
    Sorry, but from last two seasons i see there no in Canada specailists, who could help skaters with levels and PCS in ice dance. And only at GP they found they did wrong elemnts or somethinf like this. And two last seasons only V-M found at Nationals so many mistakes, but at the same time this specialists couldnt tell what spin T-S did in FD.
    I V-M alwase have weakness. And even Comes-Buckland had better tech marks, then V-M.

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    Just to put things in perspective D&W marks at 4CC in 2012 were significantly lower than they received at their Nationals. V&M got better marks at 4CC than they got at nationals. Although this year they got fantastic marks for SD so that will drop. Japan is D&W territory but so was 4CC last year.

    All that doesn't really mean much except to say that anything can happen lol. I do think we all need to just enjoy the fantastic programs V&M have this year and just focus on that and enjoy them while we can.

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    I am not talking about D-W marks at Nationals and i know they alwayse will be perfect and get higher marks, but i am talking about what canadian officials did with V-M second time in two years at Nationals. Like all others were perfect? Or what marks W-P will gte at Nationals with this marks to V-M? I think they could made at least Nationals to them less stress-full, but know. Maybe becasue they are traning in USA.
    Dont want to watch 4CC and even WCh "live". Eurosport 2 will show 4CC this time.

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    you're too competitive, pani Tessa and Scott were not treated bad at all and anyone can make mistakes, even figure skating tech specialists ((: you make it sound like someone was murdered and teared apart ((:

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    I'd rather have the Nationals tech panel be hard on V/M this year, as there are no Canadian judges at Worlds. Better to go in knowing what needs to be made super-clean than to be inflated and then be without support at Worlds.

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    guys its just nats there is nothing to worry about
    lets go back to talking about tessa and scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Accordion View Post
    So. Nationals inflation aside - anyone freaking out yet?
    Me. I'm freaked out and nauseous.

    I think the writing is on the wall that V/M are not going to win 4CC or Worlds this year. It's not because I don't think they're going to be ready--I think come worlds, V/M will most likely go in there and lay down the two best programs. I think it's all political, and I think it was decided before anyone set foot on competetive ice this season that D/W would win this year. I know some say that idea is unpleasant. I know some say that with IJS, the judging is fair and there aren't the cheating and deals anymore. I think it's very naieve to think that all of that went away with the new judging system. If anything, IMO, between the anonymous judging and number of individual marks that go into the final score, it actually makes it easier to hide when a team or skater is being overmarked at the expense of another.

    Altogther, IMO , with what we've seen with the scoring compared to the actual skating, that V/M just don't have a snowballs chance in hell. It doesn't matter how well they skate or how great their programs are when the placements come down to politics.

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