I don't even know how he could be a role model for his own children like that.
I have no doubt that he would be a less accomplished cyclist without the drugs. But to say that he would have been a nobody without PEDs is a little preposterous. It almost presumes that someone higher up in cycling personally anointed him as the next great one, and decided they would take him under their wing and do all it would take to get this useless pipsqueak all the way up to the top. That's a little too conspiracy theory for me.
The Whistleblower Lawsuit Against Lance Armstrong: What to Expect Next
In 2010, Floyd Landis, a former teammate of Armstrong’s, reportedly filed a federal “qui tam” whistleblower lawsuit against Armstrong and others. According to news reports, Landis’s whistleblower lawsuit charges that Armstrong violated the terms of the $30 million sponsorship contract he and his cycling team had with the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) by taking drugs to enhance their performances.
Here are some answers to questions about qui tam whistleblower cases and what to expect:
How can Landis as a whistleblower sue Armstrong?
Landis can sue Armstrong under the False Claims Act, which allows whistleblowers to file lawsuits against individuals and companies to recover money the government has lost due to fraud. In this instance, Landis claims the USPS was defrauded of an estimated $30 million it paid to sponsor Armstrong’s team. The law sets a maximum penalty of three times damages plus penalties for each false claim – so Armstrong and the others could be liable for more than $90 million. Whistleblowers receive rewards as an incentive to help the government recover funds otherwise lost to fraud.
Why can’t the public see Landis’s whistleblower allegations against Armstrong? The lawsuit was filed more than two years ago, according to news reports.
The False Claims Act requires that qui tam whistleblower cases be filed “under seal” – meaning they can’t be seen by the public – so that the Justice Department has an opportunity to investigate the whistleblower allegations and decide whether to intervene in the case. In this instance, the public became aware of the lawsuit as a result of information leaked to the press.
The seal is by court order, and the consequences for violating the order can be serious. The False Claims Act provides for an initial seal period of only 60 days, but the government generally asks the court to extend the seal period for months and often years while it is investigating. The seal in the Armstrong case expires Friday, according to news reports. If the court doesn’t extend the seal, the Justice Department will be required to tell the court whether it will join the whistleblower lawsuit. It also could say it hasn’t made a decision yet on whether to intervene and reserve the right to join the case at a later time. The lawsuit will be made public if the seal is not extended or the Justice Department joins the case.
So Landis, a cheater himself who knowingly bilked his supporters for four years to pay for bogus legal challenges, and who also doped as a USPS rider, is suing Lance for doping while racing for USPS? We shouldn't be surprised at the depths Landis will reach, since this was the same person behind the obscene calls to Greg LeMond, making reference to LeMond's being molested as a kid.
So what bothers me the most about this, is that Lance has ALWAYS been an athlete a world apart from everyone else. Growing up in Plano/Richardson he had no peer. I am still a supporter, he has done way too much for pediatric cancer to criticize him. I find it quite telling that all those titles have not been replaced. I'd bet that everyone (EVERYONE) was using at the time. Go Lance.
In my view of things, Floyd Landis has even less credibility than Armstrong, but that doesn't mean that his suit is without merit. He probably realized it's one way he can still make money from his cycling career.
And while it may be true that all elite cyclists of Armstrong's era (and many others before and even after that) doped, there were plenty of people who dropped out of competitive cycling rather than dope.
"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
Yes in Plano/Richardson he had no peer. But that doesn't mean he had no peer anywhere. Yes he won one world title before but he was hardly undefeated back then pre drugs..Drugs too effect different people differently.
The fact two there is very likely folks that COULD have been competitive that perhaps quit precisely because they didn't want to dope. We will never know what he would have accomplished without drugs. But even he says he wouldn't have won 7 Tours De France. And there are cyclists who are clean. The French for example I've read make their cyclists who live in France do all kinds of testing.. (The most successful ones live with it)...
And do you think his personal story and his work on cancer research didn't also get him attention/sponsors.. (I hate to be cynical). But this is a guy who sued newspapers for telling the truth about him....
Don't get me wrong I'm glad millions of people with cancer at least benefited from Lance's selfishiness, it doesn't make him a good guy though.
However there are other messages sent, and one of them is the message is drugs are okay.. And drugs including steroids do kill people and destroy a lot of lives.
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The history of cycling and the TdF is rife with substance use, well before Armstrong began his career. If cyclists quit the sport because of doping, I don't think that one can be blamed entirely on him, except in cases in which we know he was directly responsible for blackballing people. I agree that his dominance made things worse. Nonetheless, the problem was there before him; if we think of it, someone or someones got Armstrong involved in doping - I doubt he got up one morning and decided that it sounded like a fine idea, independent of the context of what was happening in the sport. But like other cyclists who doped extensively, it was still his choice to start down that road and continue on it, just as it was his choice to do the things that he did to cover it up.
If I'm not mistaken, Frankie Andreu has stated that the doping at Motorola started in 1995. I believe him.
Floyd Landis, OTOH, is about the least credible person I can think of.
Last edited by bek; 01-21-2013 at 12:50 PM.
Take a look at this interview with Bassons from a few months ago. He's a classy guy, and he paints a troubling picture of what was going on in the sport and why he decided to walk away. That was the problem; it wasn't limited to specific people. The problems in cycling were such that one rider probably couldn't have done much to improve matters. At best, they could make the right choice and refuse to be a part of it. But nobody had the power to make everyone race clean.
His work has been primarily in the areas of awareness and support programs for cancer patients and their families, not research. I don't care why he did it - whether he is Mother Teresa reincarnate or a selfish jerk who was after positive press is immaterial. What matters is the results, and there are a lot of good things that Armstrong and Livestrong have accomplished.And do you think his personal story and his work on cancer research didn't also get him attention/sponsors.. (I hate to be cynical). But this is a guy who sued newspapers for telling the truth about him....