View Poll Results: Which of these jump "firsts" was the most significant and impressive?

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  • Brandon Mroz - First Quad Lutz

    1 0.65%
  • Miki Ando - First and only Quad Jump (4S) by a Lady

    8 5.16%
  • Kurt Browning - First Quad Jump (4T)

    24 15.48%
  • Donald Jackson - First Triple Lutz

    5 3.23%
  • Vern Taylor - First Triple Axel

    0 0%
  • Grzegorz Filipowski - First Triple-Triple Combination

    1 0.65%
  • Dick Button - First Double Axel & First Triple Jump (3R)

    47 30.32%
  • Cecilia Colledge - First Double Jump (2S) by a Lady

    3 1.94%
  • Petra Burka - First Triple Jump (3S) by a Lady

    2 1.29%
  • Midori Ito - First 3A by a Lady & First Triple-Triple Combination by a Lady

    60 38.71%
  • Denise Biellmann - First Triple Lutz by a Lady

    1 0.65%
  • Elvis Stojko - First Quad Jump in Combination (4T+2T)

    3 1.94%
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    Look at Fadeev's quad in 1984.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlIfwwq-BUo

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    close, but no cigar. Obvious 2foot.

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    Incredible in Fadeev attempt : usually, the upper body makes the rotation, but not the feet. Here, the foot looks at 4 turns, but not the rest of the body, so, the landing is bad, and the 2nd foot touches down the ice. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafke View Post
    Ladies:
    most impressive = Ito! (since 3ax are still so rare for ladies her jump isn't necessarily so significant)
    Ito's 3A forced skaters like Yamaguchi and Tonya Harding to push their technical abilities to compete with her. So Ito's 3A was significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    The video in Post #1 isn't from the Junior Grand Prix Final; I think it's from 2003-04 Japanese Nationals.
    This is the video of Miki Ando in 2002-2003 Junior Grand Prix Final
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEGRwYw8vg

    Her quad Salchow jump is shown at about 1minute 30seconds in the video.

    Program: Le Corsaire
    Choreographer: Marina Zueva
    Result:
    http://www.usfigureskating.org/event...adies-free.htm

    2002-2003 Junior Gran Prix
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2...ior_Grand_Prix
    Last edited by Akira Andrea; 01-22-2013 at 04:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira Andrea View Post
    This is the video of Miki Ando in 2002-2003 Junior Grand Prix Final
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEGRwYw8vg

    Her quad Salchow jump is shown at about 1minute 30seconds in the video.

    Program: La Bayadere by Leon Minkus
    Choreographer: Marina Zueva
    Result:
    http://www.usfigureskating.org/event...adies-free.htm

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    Are people in this thread bringing up Surya to be comical? Comparing what she did in 1991 to a quad attempt is like comparing some drag queens with women. She couldn't even do a triple loop that year.

    Surya 1991 Worlds (Yikes this is hideous!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmZhBy1IXQ


    Let's talk about Sasha's quad. At least hers was legitimate, albeit very weak.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epIsRJSjotE

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    Tough choice for me - "Uncle" Dickie & Midori are my top choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    Ito's 3A forced skaters like Yamaguchi and Tonya Harding to push their technical abilities to compete with her. So Ito's 3A was significant.
    It was significant at the time to her top two rivals (technically) and historically significant.

    But... it didn't lead directly or indirectly to 3axs being a necessary part of ladies skating (what I was referring to). You can still comfortably count the number of ladies who've completed 3axs at worlds or olys on one hand (and have a finger or two left over). Twenty years after Colledge or Burka (or Biellmann) those jumps were necessary to be competitive, while the 3ax isn't (for ladies)

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    Anyway anything is good to poo on Bonaly back then & now.
    (this is mine, don't know how to do, sorry)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIronLady View Post
    Are people in this thread bringing up Surya to be comical? Comparing what she did in 1991 to a quad attempt is like comparing some drag queens with women. She couldn't even do a triple loop that year.

    Surya 1991 Worlds (Yikes this is hideous!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmZhBy1IXQ


    Let's talk about Sasha's quad. At least hers was legitimate, albeit very weak.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epIsRJSjotE
    Nice demonstration.

    I often wonder what crime did Bonaly commit to generate such hate. Well, I know, she stood for what she thought was right and everybody judges her uppon this desperate act. Are you better than her to do so ?
    I still remember these "journalists" waiting for her right after the medal ceremony, while she was still crying and could not think properly, eager for blood.

    The fact is, you took the worst possible angle to say it's nowhere near a quad. Then, what are Ando's ? Double jumps ? Single axels ? (and I don't bring poor Miki here to bash her, but look at her salchows). Show me it's more than a quarter short rotation, I'm still waiting.

    As for Cohen, it's just a joke, is it ? I'm sure both Ando and Bonaly landed several quad during pratice sessions, if not, they wouldn't had put them in their competitive programs. That's the difference between this complete quad (Cohen tried it in competition only twice if I'm not mistaking) and Ando&Bonaly's several attemps during high level competitions. It'll earn you so many title to land jumps only in pratice.

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