Entries - 2013 Worlds

[pinky166]

Why 'yay'? The Big Mack-Truck instead of beautiful elegance? The jumps are nothing without some finesse too, IMO.

Hopefully Silete will be back next season. She has big jumps and elegance plus some great diva voids . Although I will admit I've warmed up to Meite's skating recently, she still has a way to go but she actually HAS improved a lot artistically and as an overall skater over the past few seasons.

[SamuraiK]

Why 'yay'? The Big Mack-Truck instead of beautiful elegance? The jumps are nothing without some finesse too, IMO.

Cause she is the deserving to go skater. For the record I do prefer Gilleron-Gorry but she was gifted with the euro trip. Ventard was champ at Nationals and Meite second but they pick GG instead, but then Berenice beat her again at Zagreb. I thought French fed would screw it again and still pick Lenaelle. We know they love to play favorites.

Also, that statement is a two-way path. If a single skater is all elegant and musical (let's not use "artistic" cause I dont think being the delicate ballerina type for which most peole here go gaga over is the only or better way to be artistic) but can not jump to save his/her life they are out of place in a competitive sport which FS was the last time I checked. Whenever someone says "aww she messed all her elements but I could watch her skate all day" I want to say "well go and watch her at a disney on ice or ballet on ice show or something similar but this is a competition".

[jiggs]

Team Italy:

Men
Paolo Bacchini, GS Fiamme Oro, Peter Grutter (Allenatore)
Paul B. Parkinson, Forum Ssdrl, Becky Calvin (Allenatore)

Ladies
Carolina Kostner, GS Fiamme Azzurre, Michael Huth (Allenatore)
Valentina Marchei, Sesto Ice Skate, Jason Dungjan (Allenatore)
Carol Bressanutti, Ice Skating Bolzano, Lorenzo Magri (Allenatore)
Substitute
Roberta Rodeghiero, Sesto Ice Skate, Franca Bianconi (Allenatore)

Pairs
Stefania Berton/Ondrej Hotarek, GS Fiamme Azzurre, Franca Bianconi (Allenatore)
Nicole Della Monica/Matteo Guarise, Olympic Dream Ice School, Oleg Vassiliev (Allenatore)

Dance
Anna Cappellini/Luca Lanotte, GS Fiamme Azzurre, Paola Mezzadri (Allenatore)
Charlene Guignard/Marco Fabbri, Agorà Skating Team, Barbara Fusar Poli (Allenatore)
Substitute
Lorenza Alessandrini/Simone Vaturi, Forum Ssdrl, Barbara Fusar Poli (Allenatore)

Interesting they chose Carol Bressanutti as the third ladies' entry!

[Lis]

I agree Gilleron-Gorry impressed me more at Euros that Meite.

[SamuraiK]

Romain Ponsart just posted this on his Facebook account:
"Grosse déception, je viens d'apprendre mon forfait au championnat du monde, sans justification de la part de la fédération... En attente de réponses.... je n'ai pas de mots.... :'("

Google translate: Big disappointment, I just learned my withdrawal in the world championship without justification from the federation ... Waiting for answers .... I have no words .... : '(

[morqet]

Romain Ponsart just posted this on his Facebook account:
"Grosse déception, je viens d'apprendre mon forfait au championnat du monde, sans justification de la part de la fédération... En attente de réponses.... je n'ai pas de mots.... :'("

Google translate: Big disappointment, I just learned my withdrawal in the world championship without justification from the federation ... Waiting for answers .... I have no words .... : '(

Awww, that sucks for him & it's horrible that the federation can mess its skaters around like that. But to be honest, I didn't understand why they picked him over Besseghier in the first place.

[skatak]

well, the French fed did not pick Chafik either...

[shah]

they can send 3 skaters and decide to send two only? even if 2 other skaters have the TES?

[skatak]

well.... yes

[euterpe]

Since there aren't any more B competitions before Worlds, why are there on the rosters skaters/teams who haven't reached the minimum score (*)? Does that mean the ISU is considering raising the minimum score yet again?

[Dave of the North]

Since there aren't any more B competitions before Worlds, why are there on the rosters skaters/teams who haven't reached the minimum score (*)? Does that mean the ISU is considering raising the minimum score yet again?

Lowering, you mean? Perhaps the (*) teams/skaters are going to show up and hope no-one asks any awkward questions.

[SamuraiK]

Lowering, you mean? Perhaps the (*) teams/skaters are going to show up and hope no-one asks any awkward questions.

LOL the chinese dance team would probably show up and will only then find out they dont' have the scores but their fed will act as if nothing happened like in Jr. Worlds a few years ago.

[peibeck]

Cross posting info I just posted in the Prediction Conest thread:

One replacement: Carol Bressanutti replaces Francesa Rio (ITA) in the Ladies field.

Removed from the roster:
MEN: Valtter Virtanen (FIN), Romain Ponsart (FRA) [see above, France has no one on the sub list now], Stephane Walker (SUI)
LADIES: Laura Rasykova (CZE), Clara Peters (IRL)
PAIRS: Martini/Kiefer (AUT)
DANCE: Elsener/Roost (SUI)

I expect some more removals this week due to a few people still having not confirmed TES minimums.

[peibeck]

The remaining competitors names by their feds who did not meet the TES minimums have now been removed from the entries list:

No longer on the roster:
Men: Manuella (BRA), Atanassov (BUL), Hattick (GBR)

Ladies: Afonkina (BUL), Maxwell (LUX), Hamui (MEX)

PAIRS: Foucher/Magyar (HUN), Lavrentieva/Rudyk (UKR)

DANCE: O'Brien/Merriman (AUS), Coward/Kenchadze (BUL), Huang/Zheng (CHN)

[SLIVER]

Surprised because O'brien/M are very decent indeed, and shocked about Huang/Zheng 13th in the world not long ago. China wont be happy not to even have an entry in dance. I think these minimums are too high.

[shah]

bring preliminaries back!
and burn the French Fed!

[elfenblüte]

bring preliminaries back!

Your words in ISU´s ears!

Its not a real World Championship with so few entries in every discipline.

I preferred the preliminary rounds even we didnt have a chance to watch them, but at least the skaters from smaller federations had the chance to compete.

[Sylvia]

Romain Ponsart just posted this on his Facebook account:
"Grosse déception, je viens d'apprendre mon forfait au championnat du monde, sans justification de la part de la fédération... En attente de réponses.... je n'ai pas de mots.... :'("

Google translate: Big disappointment, I just learned my withdrawal in the world championship without justification from the federation ... Waiting for answers .... I have no words .... : '(

The answer/explanation has since been posted in the French skating news thread in GSD:

I remember last year the French Federation set out its own technical minimums, including specified jump content for selection for Europeans and Worlds - I can't find a link for it after just a brief search, but I remember the demands being quite stringent and higher than the ISU TES minimum - it is possible that the same standards are in place this year & neither Romain or Chafik have met them? It's still a ridiculous choice, it's not like they have many men to choose from and need their own tech requirements to narrow the field...

You are absolutely right Morget.
I went back to my notes.
Chafik said at GP France that he had to achieve, I believe, 215.0 to make the World qualification set by France..and that his best to date had been 202.
That will be the restriction on Ponsart.

Here is the link to the French criteria selection
( I googled 215 and FFSG)

http://tinyurl.com/a7rjz9d

Minimums are on p.15

[Frau Muller]

....Its not a real World Championship with so few entries in every discipline.
.....

Let the skaters improve their skills if they want to be worthy of inclusion in a World Championship. I'm all for an end to the 'tourist skaters' at major ISU championships. The points-eligibility rules have certainly not kept smaller Feds like the Philippines out of the major championships.

[peibeck]

Surprised because O'brien/M are very decent indeed, and shocked about Huang/Zheng 13th in the world not long ago. China wont be happy not to even have an entry in dance. I think these minimums are too high.

Agree, it is sad about O/M because they have improved so much since moving to Detroit to train. Every other discipline but dance the TES was lowered by the ISU before Worlds.

I'm not so sad about missing the Chinese dance teams though.