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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    What do you mean by 'then the truth?'
    There is a saying in English.

    "There are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and the truth."

    What it means is everyone has a point of view. A lot of times, even if they are an honest person, their viewpoint is colored by their own biases and perception. So the idea is that Oleg's viewpoint may not be 100% everything that happened, Maria's viewpoint may not be 100% everything, nor Trankov's. The truth maybe a bit in between.

    Its a great reminder in general, why its not a good idea to take sides in a lot of cases when you don't have too, and even a reminder if your in a fight with someone that you may not fully understand things from their viewpoint or perspective.

    I mean sure there are times when yes the truth is clear and there. But a lot of times when are talking about human beings and long standing relationships....

    In general, I don't see why I need to make any of the parties the bad guy. The working relationship didn't work. All probably made mistakes. In the case though of Maxim/Maria. I think they would have eventually ended up on the world podium etc.
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    I cracked up laughing when I saw the new thread title.
    The Junior Grand Prix: Where skaters who "come out of nowhere" come from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bek View Post
    What it means is everyone has a point of view. A lot of times, even if they are an honest person, their viewpoint is colored by their own biases and perception. So the idea is that Oleg's viewpoint may not be 100% everything that happened, Maria's viewpoint may not be 100% everything, nor Trankov's. The truth maybe a bit in between.
    But 'objective truth' (whatever that even means) doesn't exist. The only thing that does exist is the way the three people involved in this situation have perceived it.

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    The new title of the thread.

    Thanks for the information TAHbKA, I still think this new split is incomprehensible, considering their potential, but human factor is quite difficult to understand. Good luck for Davidovich in her search of a new partner.
    Zorry my english, I´m a verrrrrry rude spaÑish

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    He is a good looking muscular pair skater in the US. He knows that some rich American girl is ready to rent a Ukrainian or Israeli and fund the training. I can think of a couple of American ladies who would be perfect for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    But 'objective truth' (whatever that even means) doesn't exist. The only thing that does exist is the way the three people involved in this situation have perceived it.
    Well of course its difficult to get to the "objective" truth, if not impossible. But its a reminder that the whole truth isn't necessarily in one person's story alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkbiggestfan View Post
    He is a good looking muscular pair skater in the US. He knows that some rich American girl is ready to rent a Ukrainian or Israeli and fund the training. I can think of a couple of American ladies who would be perfect for him.
    I'm so curious to know who

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkbiggestfan View Post
    He is a good looking muscular pair skater in the US. He knows that some rich American girl is ready to rent a Ukrainian or Israeli and fund the training. I can think of a couple of American ladies who would be perfect for him.
    I don't think he was paying anything out of pocket with either Montalbano or Davidovich.

    Unless the American ladies are Jewish, they'd have a tough time getting Israeli citizenship, and they're not going to be able to represent the US, either.

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    All they need is one Jewish grandparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    All they need is one Jewish grandparent.
    Like Alison Reed

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAHbKA View Post
    Like Alison Reed
    I forgot about her. But she didn't get citizenship, did she?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    I forgot about her. But she didn't get citizenship, did she?
    No idea. Hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post
    I don't think he was paying anything out of pocket with either Montalbano or Davidovich.

    Unless the American ladies are Jewish, they'd have a tough time getting Israeli citizenship, and they're not going to be able to represent the US, either.
    I'd be surprised if he couldn't find a ton of skaters of Jewish ancestry here in the US. Seriously, the NY/NJ region - I don't understand why these skaters can't find a nice Jewish girl in Hackensack.
    Use Yah Blinkah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    All they need is one Jewish grandparent.
    Quote Originally Posted by TAHbKA View Post
    Like Alison Reed
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    I forgot about her. But she didn't get citizenship, did she?
    Not as of right now, no.
    Use Yah Blinkah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarrAarghHrumph View Post
    I'd be surprised if he couldn't find a ton of skaters of Jewish ancestry here in the US. Seriously, the NY/NJ region - I don't understand why these skaters can't find a nice Jewish girl in Hackensack.
    you sound like his mom
    I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    you sound like his mom
    The Junior Grand Prix: Where skaters who "come out of nowhere" come from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarrAarghHrumph View Post
    I'd be surprised if he couldn't find a ton of skaters of Jewish ancestry here in the US. Seriously, the NY/NJ region - I don't understand why these skaters can't find a nice Jewish girl in Hackensack.
    Not all nice Jewish girls want to skate pairs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post
    Not all nice Jewish girls want to skate pairs
    Oy, they could try! Would it kill them?

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    I am saddened to hear this because "Davidovich and Krasnopolsky" was probably the best pair name I have ever heard in my life. I also didnt know Rachel from Glee could also skate pairs along with her many other talents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post
    Not all nice Jewish girls want to skate pairs
    Listen - if it'd get me to Worlds and the Olys, I'd skate pairs with him.
    Use Yah Blinkah!

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