Last edited by bardtoob; 12-12-2012 at 06:21 PM.
I am in the K&C at the 1980 Olympics telling Frank Carroll he will have a male skater from KAZ with a 4T, 3A-3T and a World Silver going into the 2014 Olympics ...
To be honest, not that impressed.
For one thing, what does it even mean in terms of skating?
If you've seen her driving a truck on a regular basis, or seen her commercial driving license, then I guess it is an objective fact.
I loved the spiral sequence in this program. This particular execution of it was not the best (I remember better at other competitions), but the rocker turn from back spiral to forward spiral and the amount of ice covered with minimal pushing was still quite spectacular.
Flip seemed rather lippy to me, no?
I was never a big fan of Irina's skating (I'm still not) but over the year's I've gained a big appreciation for what she did during her time. Her jumps were big, her speed was excellent, her spins (while not always the prettiest in terms of position) were difficult and fast, and she pushed herself technically. I preferred (and still prefer) a softer, more graceful and controlled skater but I've learned to appreciate Irina's energy and personality on the ice. The thing I loved the most about her was her longevity and her love for the sport. To go through the trials that she did and still return to skating just because you love to compete...that really made me a fan of hers.
she was always marked down on the second mark because she had absolutely no finesse... She wasn't even a skater who had awesome jumps like Midori Ito where you were so awed by them that you could overlook the flaws in other areas... I feel she got as far as she did because of Russian politics....
Thank you for this thread! I love her, maybe she wasn't too pretty, but she was a great skater and champion.
Really? You don't give her any credit for landing amazing 3-3 combinations that most skaters shunned those days? No credit for her speed, power, athleticism, her connection with the audience, her pure joy of skating, her amazing footwork, and doing the Biellman on both sides when very few skaters were doing a Biellman at all? She did not have the kind of body that creates lines, but that does not mean she did not have finesse and other great qualities.
I found her an amazing skater both technically and presentation wise. She didnt have the balletic qualities of a Kwan or Cohen, but she had her own style which was fast, dynamic, expressive, dramatic, energetic, and a great command and presence on the ice which I noticed more when seeing her live, and which led to respectable or strong 2nd marks. I think she might be the best overall technical skater ever when considering not only jumps, but jumps, jump combinations, spins, footwork, stroking and speed, even spirals (hers were actually much better than most, biased Button and Fleming made them sound bad only since Cohen and Kwan's stunning spirals were much better). Her spirals were way above hip level normally, and I look back at say the 92 Olympics and Irina's spirals are way better than Midori Ito who while I love her truly had average ones, and atleast as good as Yamaguchi who was considered one of the best at the time. Her only weakness was her problems with nerves in World or Olympic events. She was capable of winning about 6 Worlds and 2 Olympics potentially- 2000, 2001, 2006, maybe 1997, 2002 and 2006 Olympics, had she skated to her potential, but only managed 2.
As far as this goes ... "Her grating landings, her ugly posture, her ill positioned back and posture." When's the last time you had your eyes checked? You know, there's cheaper rates and affordable insurance now. It shouldn't cost a lot for you to visit an Optomitrist. That might actually help.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde
Yes!!! I love her smile!!!! So sweet!!