Royalty Thread #4 Nappies and Nuptials

[PDilemma]

You can find out from a blood test but not all doctors do it. I guess some hormone or whatever is secreted in the mother's blood if you are carrying a boy. They can test for it. If that's there, boy. If not, girl. It's fairly accurate. I've heard it's called the Jack & Jill test. You can also have a CVS or amnio which I believe will tell you the gender before the usual 20 week scan. We found out we were probably having a boy at about 17 weeks; he liked to hide and we could never get a good shot! But then at another scan at like, 30 weeks when I had to go to the hospital for something, they told me I was having a girl.

My cousin was told she was having a girl with her first. Three ultrasounds. Every single time they were certain it was a girl. True story this: when her baby came out, the doctor announced "It's a boy!" and mother and grandmother (father not in the picture) exclaimed together: "WHAT???"

[Anita18]

You can find out from a blood test but not all doctors do it. I guess some hormone or whatever is secreted in the mother's blood if you are carrying a boy. They can test for it. If that's there, boy. If not, girl. It's fairly accurate.

I thought the fetal blood never mixed with the mother's blood, so I looked this up. Turns out 10% of DNA fragments (not in cells, just fragments) floating around in the mother's blood is from the fetus! From dying placental or fetal cells. That's what they're looking at.

They can sequence whatever they get and determine which fragments are from the mother and which fragments are from the fetus, then make the sex determination. That's pretty wild.

[numbers123]

I hope the nurse is fired, and the hospital is reprimanded. I assume the Royals have a separate section, floor, suite, or whatever. Surely there are safeguards in place. Although there has always been such a gentleman's agreement in place between the British press and the Royal Family, they may have just been naive.

I have no idea what the privacy regulations are outside the US. I have no idea if the chart or other information said "No Info". You would be surprised at the number of press people have called in the US with all kinds of "valid type of credentials" to get the stories. Nurses are people - like all of you - who are speculating on what the Royals know or don't know, even to wearing blue indicates a boy. Sure she should have referred all calls to the Public Relations department it the hospital or Royals were present. But there are several cases in the US where the press masquerade as I believe that there as someone in the family or physicians practice including information on George Bush 1 or other presidents. If someone called you claiming to be the queen, you might just be in awe of talking to the "queen" you forget every thing. If you want to fire people start with the operator or admissions people who connected the radio station people to the nurses station in the first place. Because they would not know what floor or anything about the hospital rooms without some other help.

[danceronice]

I think people forget that they're real people. Carrying your pregnant wife out of hospital is probably more dangerous than letting her walk. What if you drop her?

Yeah, I think they've been reading "Twilight" too much.....

[manleywoman]

Although there has always been such a gentleman's agreement in place between the British press and the Royal Family, . . .

Diana would beg to differ with you.

[*Jen*]

Cause 55% is SUCH an overwhelming majority.

SNIP

But to postulate that ALL skinny women will have girls is rather silly.

I know, right? But to clarify - not ALL skinny women have girls. Just a whopping 55% of them!

We found out we were probably having a boy at about 17 weeks; he liked to hide and we could never get a good shot! But then at another scan at like, 30 weeks when I had to go to the hospital for something, they told me I was having a girl.

Did you have a boy or a girl in the end?

As for the privacy thing...it's odd. Normally getting information out of a hospital here about a relative is like getting blood out of a stone. You have security questions that you have to answer which only someone in the family would know (allegedly), before they're satisfied. However, I think it being a private hospital and perhaps a bit star struck by the Queen calling, they waived it.

[mkats]

Oh my goodness.

Kate hospital receptionist who was duped by Australian DJs' prank phone call dies in suspected suicide

[skatesindreams]

That's terrible, whatever the cause of her death.

[Catherine M]

That's terrible that the poor receptionist thought their only way of dealing with the aftermath of the prank was to commit suicide.

No words to describe the disgust for the pranksters still gloating about their prank.

[AragornElessar]

CNN just reported about this, but say it's the nurse who took the call, not the receptionist who put it through.

Regardless...No words.

[danceronice]

In a very weird way I truly hope this was not triggered by the prank call and the public response to it but some other issue in their life or that it isn't in fact a suicide, because omg...

[Jenny]

Oh my goodness, how terrible. Well hopefully the good that comes from this will be a massive wake up call to BACK OFF.

The Royal Family in recent years has been very open about the family and their lives with comprehensive, up to date websites and very active social media, not to mention the amount of time the royals spend out in public doing works in the community, meeting people, and readily being photographed. When there is news to share, they'll certainly share it.

I must say this also speaks to society's continual need to play the blame game. Whenever anything bad happens, fingers begin pointing and judgements are made. It's too bad that we can't just let the people who are actually involved sort it out. And yet, when something good happens, the applause is much quieter and those who deserve credit never seem to get enough accolades and thanks. There's not enough positivity in the world.

[Cachoo]

Regarding the blame game I thought the DJ's were getting the blame. I hope Jacinta's employers were kind to her as the mistake was completely understandable. This is sad news.

[Fergus]

Greig and Christian certainly are the target of well-deserved ire.

Horrible, tragic story. That poor nurse's family.......

[Alixana]

Greig and Christian certainly are the target of well-deserved ire.

Horrible, tragic story. That poor nurse's family.......

The prank call was pre-recorded and vetted by lawyers before going on air?

[Jenny]

Regarding the blame game I thought the DJ's were getting the blame.

In addition to blaming the DJs, there has been a great deal of discussion about lax procedures at the hospital, how that would never happen [insert name of hospital or jurisdiction], how the both the receptionist and nurse should have known better, etc etc.

At this point, both their Twitters are down, and the station's site is down. Could be overload, or could be they've been taken down while the station figures out what to do.

[kylet3]

It wasn't the nurse on the actual call (the one that the public heard) that committed suicide but the nurse who initially put the call through. Either way, this is an absolutely devastating tragedy. The DJ's have blood on their hands for this one and I hope they feel guilty for the rest of the lives for what they've done.

[floskate]

I'm absolutely shocked at this tragic news. The media coverage of this matter - in the UK at least - has been WAY over the top. Even I, as a hardened royalist thought it was all just too much. We've just had the outcome of the Leveson inquiry which recommends legal restrictions on the media here in the UK. Whether that is really the right way to go I don't know, but this has to provide a serious wake up call. Back off!!

[AragornElessar]

I read in one article that Lord Levenson's ironically in Australia right now.

I just can't get out of my mind there are now two kids out there who will never have the same feelings about Christmas ever again.

[Alixana]

Royals issue statement