Will We Ever Going To See a Quad Axel??

[antmanb]

Can you post what exactly he said? That does not really matter, I am just curious.

I don't know if you are asking me or lala, but the link lala put to the Europeans small medal ceremony is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-6WJ6O0wB8

A rough transcript of the section in question (from around 9min40) is:

Question: Is it possible to do a quad Axel?

Evgeni Pluschenko: Yes, in the future, yes, for sure. I know one guy, uh, who almost made it, the quad axel. So in the future yes.

Q: Have you tried it?

EP: [nods] I tried it.

[audience laughs]

EP: [shrugs his shoulders, smiles] It's true.

[unicorn]

I don't know if you are asking me or lala, but the link lala put to the Europeans small medal ceremony is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-6WJ6O0wB8

A rough transcript of the section in question (from around 9min40) is:

Question: Is it possible to do a quad Axel?

Evgeni Pluschenko: Yes, in the future, yes, for sure. I know one guy, uh, who almost made it, the quad axel. So in the future yes.

Q: Have you tried it?

EP: [nods] I tried it.

[audience laughs]

EP: [shrugs his shoulders, smiles] It's true.

That's very vague. Besides it's very different between try and serious practice. I remember in one of his interviews, when asked who could possibly do a 4a, he mentioned a young Russian skater, Artur Dmitriev I think.

[unicorn]

I don't know if you are asking me or lala, but the link lala put to the Europeans small medal ceremony is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-6WJ6O0wB8

A rough transcript of the section in question (from around 9min40) is:

Question: Is it possible to do a quad Axel?

Evgeni Pluschenko: Yes, in the future, yes, for sure. I know one guy, uh, who almost made it, the quad axel. So in the future yes.

Q: Have you tried it?

EP: [nods] I tried it.

[audience laughs]

EP: [shrugs his shoulders, smiles] It's true.

So far, obviously it's very clear he practiced 4S and 4lz, but not 4F and 4A

[lala]

[unicorn]

Plushenko said 4A is possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-6WJ6O0wB8

Of course nothing is impossible.

[Eyre]

That's very vague. Besides it's very different between try and serious practice. I remember in one of his interviews, when asked who could possibly do a 4a, he mentioned a young Russian skater, Artur Dmitriev I think.

But what you were arguing was he never tried:

Plushenko said he never tried a 4A in one of his interviews. Some rumors spreaded by his fans said he did.

[unicorn]

But what you were arguing was he never tried:

That's my mistake, obviously here I mean serious try. I know it's confusing

[lala]

Of course nothing is impossible.

Plushenko thinks the quintuple is impossible. , but the 4A is possible

[unicorn]

Plushenko thinks the pintuple is impossible. , but the 4A is possible

That's his opinion, interesting. But some people think a 4A is more impossible than a quintuplet T. It would be interesting to see how the jumps go after 10 years.

[VarBar]

I remember reading somewhere that both Yagudin and Pluschenko attempted a few in practice.

All I know from Yagudin's interviews is that he attempted the 4A just once in practice and that he chose to give up on further attempts because he almost broke his neck on the landing. And I also recall Plushenko a couple years ago saying he never tried the 4A but felt it was such a hard jump that whoever would be able to stay on one foot on the landing would probably need like 20 seconds to pull themselves back together afterwards before ever continuing with the program.

[unicorn]

All I know from Yagudin's interviews is that he attempted the 4A just once in practice and that he chose to gave up on further attempts because he almost broke his neck on the landing. And I also recall Plushenko a couple years ago saying he never tried the 4A but felt it was such a hard jump that whoever would be able to stay on one foot on the landing would probably need like 20 seconds to pull themselves back together afterwards before ever continuing with the program.

From Alexei Mishin's interview, he did mention a couple of times that he taught Yagudin to do a 4A very seriously, and the results were pretty good. So Yagudin was the one did practiced 4A but only when he was still a teenager I think. Alexei Mishin was very ambitious, the technique for the 4T was not very mature yet by that time. Makes me feel Yagudin left Mishin was really a good thing.

[lala]

That's his opinion, interesting. But some people think a 4A is more impossible than a quintuplet T. It would be interesting to see how the jumps go after 10 years.

I forgot who is the young Japanese( Machida?) skater who tried 4T+4T, I saw the video on Tube.

[lala]

From Alexei Mishin's interview, he did mention a couple of times that he taught Yagudin to do a 4A very seriously, and the results were pretty good. So Yagudin was the one did practiced 4A but only when he was still a teenager I think. Alexei Mishin was very ambitious, the technique for the 4T was not very mature yet by that time. Makes me feel Yagudin left Mishin was really a good thing.

Why?

[skatesindreams]

"Possible" and wise/advisable, are two very different things.

[unicorn]

Why?

I am not very clear what you are asking

[unicorn]

I forgot who is the young Japanese( Machida?) skater who tried 4T+4T, I saw the video on Tube.

Do you have a link?

[mathil]

I forgot who is the young Japanese( Machida?) skater who tried 4T+4T, I saw the video on Tube.

It was Mura, but he was short by half a rotation if I remember correctly.

[PeterG]

Not only do I want to see LOTS of quad axels, but I want to see kneebones splurt out of a guy's body, right through their costume! That would be AWESOME!!!

[Sylvia]

It was Mura, but he was short by half a rotation if I remember correctly.

Here's Takahito Mura's 4T+4T attempt in practice shown in a Japanese TV broadcast of his SP at Chubu Regionals last month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWGfVxUhhLs

[Sasha'sSpins]

History has proven that in sport ANYTHING is possible. Especially with advances in training and equipment as the years progress. It make take a better kind of skate boot/blade but SOMEONE is going to do a Quad Axel.