What about the dozen or so skaters she beat at her regional competition? Should they all quit too? They aren't competitive at the senior level either
It’s like with ballet dancers who do it for a living – not all are good enough to do it at Bolshoi. Still they might be good and worth watching. Everybody has the right to do what makes him happy. If others feel embarrassed, don’t look at it / try to ignore.
some Fumie related news.
Daimaru Department Store will sell 25 lucky grab bag "photo session with Fuimie"
( I wonder if this is including skating lesson) for 10000 yen( Over $100)
Do you buy one?
Wouldn't it be better to be less emotionally invested in her personal affairs and stop reading her messages?
I guess a lot of people were laughing about Katharina Witt, when she announced her willingness to compete at 1994 OG, people possibly might have laughed about Paul Wylie if he announced that he is aiming to win a Olympic medal in 1992 a couple of years prior to that.
I too don’t think she has big chances to make the OG, but if she wants to try – let her do so in peace. Cause I think it’s one thing to discuss her low chances to make team and another one to personally insult her for this decision in a way like some people do.
It’s not like Fumie is harming anyone with not quitting, except maybe herself (her body certainly will take its toll). Makes me really wonder why quite a few people seem to have a personal problem with it.
So whatever, fine, let Fumie continue to deplete the family funds (clearly the college fund evaporated) if it gives her enjoyment. I'm not personally affected one way or the other. Just was giving my opinion on someone who hasn't given up the ghost it seems.
ETA: didn't Simone Koch make a come back, as well? Not sure if it was in 1994, or a little later.
Your point on Witt is incredibly stupid. Witt was far more competitive period in 1994 than Suguri is now. Witt was 7th at the Olympics, if you plunk Fumie in a Worlds right now somehow my guess if she would probably finish about 40th considering she cant even make it out of Regional level events and that 2 years ago she was finishing almost dead last on the grand prixs she did, and presumably has declined alot more since then. The only realistic way she could hope to make a Worlds again is to acquire citizenship in some obscure country with no skaters at all (even ones with a very weak international skater would beat her out for the lone spot) somehow. Witt also did not sacrifice alot of her time and energy to keep competing amateur, she simply came back for 6 months to make a weak German Olympic team, compete at a final Olympics, then go back to pro competition.
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witt gained her spot, leaving marina kielmann at home who was the current european bronze medalist (medalled the years before too) and came in fourth at worlds'94. not to mention szewczenkos bronze 94.
so witt obviously faced competition in germany (despite she surely had profit in her b-note)
suguri skates today at the silvester-gala in oberstdorf. i'll try to watch (although i'm not a fan of exhbition shows) but i will try to report what she's doing).
funny btw. I've been watching ski jumping right now. martin schmitt of germany is still alive, he is like suguri, so if he manages to crack in top30, who knows, maybe suguri will bounce back
Well I mean weak relative to what they were used to in previous years. The German ladies were definitely not the powerhouse they had been accustomed to in the 80s. They had several good skaters, even an again Witt whom was one of, but no possible medal contenders for Lillehammer (I know Szewcenko medaled at the post Olympic Worlds but that was a much weaker field).
Granted, Suguri isn't even likely to compete internationally for Japan now, but she's no longer training in Russia, seems to have have found some sponsors, and still enjoys competing for the sake of it. Sure, she brings up the Olympics in interviews, but how is that so much different than other skaters bringing up potential comebacks once the Olympics get close? We've been dissecting her career for a good 12-pages here, so if she's going for 'any publicity is good publicity' I'd say this is mission accomplished.
The skaters who've been talking about comebacks are/have been at a much higher level in their own countries and have a reasonable shot to make their National teams. Witt might have faced formidable competition in her own country, and people may have doubted her, but, for most, there were few recent results that showed how unlikely the goal of making the Olympic team would have been for her, and, of course, had pros not been allowed back in, it would have been a non-starter for Witt. (There were many comments about how she would tarnish her prior Olympic history, and how unfair it was to come back as a pro, but her stated goal was to allow her parents to see her skate at an Olympics live, which they hadn't been able to do either time she won.) We're not talking about a half-dozen competitors for Suguri, where if the stars aligned, with a couple of injuries and/or meltdowns the podium is within reach, like with Zayak: we're talking about not being close to getting out of regionals. I don't think people would think Miki Ando is delusional for coming back for the Olympic season, especially since the Japanese Fed seems to consider Suzuki expendable.
Has the Japanese Fed come up with selection criteria for the Olympic team? Suguri has no recent results outside her Nationals attempts.
"The team doesn't get automatic capacity because management is mad" -- Greg Smith, agile guy
ETA: No idea about the Olympic criteria, but for the past few years most spots were determined based on Nationals, and only one (if any) based on things like highest finisher at the GPF, or whatever might be the case. It looks like they learned their lesson from 2006.
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Just curious: Has Suguri repeatedly been quoted on the record about hoping to make another Olympic team? Or is what she said in the brief Japanese article linked in the first post of this thread (what did she say in it exactly?) merely being overblown by some?
Suguri placed 5th at Toyko Regionals and made it to Eastern Sectionals where she placed 11th (top 10 advanced to Nationals), missing 10th place by 0.5 points. It is clear from the detailed protocols that she is no longer competitive with the elite ladies in Japan, but she almost qualified for Nationals this year!
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